[LikeABoatOnWater]

Originally Posted by arista

Bans fags in open places

this is one thing they need to do. pronto

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

It's fairly obvious what I'm saying, even a child could decipher what I'm saying.

I'm saying that it's down to the parents to prevent their children looking at age inappropriate stuff, there's plenty of childproof options already. You shouldn't surrender your rights just so the government can raise your kids because you don't want to get a childlock on your internet connection.

I doubt that dezzy, no need to be rude.
My opinion has less to do with that and more to do with the illegal practices within the porn industry, of course the government need to put in place this kind of protection and filters as this material floods the internet.

Originally Posted by Nedusa

GOOD......about bloody time, if you want to receive Pornagraphic material then you should be able to but have to go through some sort of vetting/opting in procedure. It should never be available at the click of button to absolutely anybody.

I think one of the reasons young children today are so confused re sexual matters is that they view thousands of pornagraphic images and engage in under age sex with absolutely no understanding of the consequences or the responsibilites that come from sexual relationships.

What is the evidence that children today are confused about sexual matters?

Children engage in under age sex, regardless of what's on the internet. It's just a fact. It's weird the way people are acting that children only started to know about sex when the internet was introduced into society.

Internet porn has probably provided confused children/teens with more reassurance, and less stigma.

[Lee.]

Originally Posted by Ryan.

But why should the millions of unmarried, single people in this country suffer or be forced to declare their love of porn just for the protection of your family? What is wrong with an Opt-in; Where you say "Actually BT, turn off the porn for me - I have young kids who use the internet in my house"

Why should my children have access to millions of pages of hardcore, sometimes violent pornography just so you can toss yourself off?

Originally Posted by Lee.

You don't have to actually search for it though.. There's a lot of innocent searches will return some dubious results.

Stick to web search and stay off the image search, you dirty mare.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Jesus.

Whatever next? Ban the use of eyes, just in case they happen to see something that might be harmful?

To find porn, you need to search for it. Why not ban fighting videos on the net? How about traffic accidents?

People should be allowed to view what they want. If it's not illegal to watch Anjelica or Stoya being ploughed, then get the ****** out of my living room/bedroom/toilet/kitchen/shed/sex dungeon.

The women involved aren't sex slaves.

How do you know this?

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Lee.

But you can't supervise them all the time.. I keep the laptop in the living room and they're not allowed to take it to their room... But they all have iPods, smart phones, tablets etc.. Plus you don't know what they're doing when they're at other people's houses.

But you can set up filters yourself already?

As for other peoples houses, you still won't know really. As they might have opted in.

[Ryan.]

Originally Posted by Lee.

Why should my children have access to millions of pages of hardcore, sometimes violent pornography just so you can toss yourself off?

Well they wouldn't have to. Surely as a concerned parent its not embarrassing to lift the phone and ask for the filter to be activated. Much less invasive than asking millions to lift the phone and declare to their ISP/The Government that they quite fancy a wank because they are obviously such dirty perverted little freaks.

[Nedusa]

Originally Posted by Jesus.

What is the evidence that children today are confused about sexual matters?

Children engage in under age sex, regardless of what's on the internet. It's just a fact. It's weird the way people are acting that children only started to know about sex when the internet was introduced into society.

Internet porn has probably provided confused children/teens with more reassurance, and less stigma.

This....!!!!

"Why should my children have access to millions of pages of hardcore, sometimes violent pornography just so you can toss yourself off?"

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

I doubt that dezzy, no need to be rude.
My opinion has less to do with that and more to do with the illegal practices within the porn industry, of course the government need to put in place this kind of protection and filters as this material floods the internet.

The Porn Industry has strict rules and guidelines and you're screwed if you don't abide by them.

Again it's down to the parents to prevent their children from seeing this stuff, there's plenty of programs available to prevent kids from looking at porn and inappropriate material so you should try to look into them instead of expecting the government to do your parenting for you.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Jesus.

What is the evidence that children today are confused about sexual matters?

Children engage in under age sex, regardless of what's on the internet. It's just a fact. It's weird the way people are acting that children only started to know about sex when the internet was introduced into society.

Internet porn has probably provided confused children/teens with more reassurance, and less stigma.

I think you know that's not true, there have been many studies done some of which maybe helped in this decision?

Originally Posted by Kizzy

How do you know this?

Because it's a regulated industry. I don't watch porn from Turkmenistan filmed on a dodgy handheld in the back of a 1974 van.

I'm not saying that there isn't anyone one in the porn industry who is a sex slave, but it seems a bit of a stretch to assume that most people are, and banning porn from computers in the UK, will have a positive impact on human trafficking around the world. It won't.

There are probably people working in fruit farms/restaurants in the UK that have been trafficked. It happens everywhere and in every industry, but porn is actually fairly decent for looking after the people involved these days.

Originally Posted by Kizzy

I think you know that's not true, there have been many studies done some of which maybe helped in this decision?

I wouldn't have written it if I knew it wasn't true. Provide the studies. I'm not entirely sure what "there have been many studies done some of which maybe helped in this decision?" means.

[Lee.]

Originally Posted by Jesus.

What is the evidence that children today are confused about sexual matters?

Children engage in under age sex, regardless of what's on the internet. It's just a fact. It's weird the way people are acting that children only started to know about sex when the internet was introduced into society.

Internet porn has probably provided confused children/teens with more reassurance, and less stigma.

Teens maybe.. But my kids are only 6 and 9. I don't want them to be able to view cocks n stuff

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

The Porn Industry has strict rules and guidelines and you're screwed if you don't abide by them.

Again it's down to the parents to prevent their children from seeing this stuff, there's plenty of programs available to prevent kids from looking at porn and inappropriate material so you should try to look into them instead of expecting the government to do your parenting for you.

Next you will be telling me that illegally made and distributed porn makers have a union...
Did you not read my earlier post? I said that I appreciate the root cause is what has forced the government to act here.

''Experts from the Child Exploitation and Online Protection Centre will be given more powers to examine secretive file-sharing networks
A secure database of banned child porn images gathered by police across the country will be used to trace illegal content and the paedophiles viewing it''

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-23401076

Originally Posted by Lee.

Teens maybe.. But my kids are only 6 and 9. I don't want them to be able to view cocks n stuff

I have sympathy with you here, but you can contact your ISP and ask them to make your internet child friendly. I know you are a responsible parent, as are most people in general, and all concerned parents currently have the ability to do something about it. It's not like there is no other way for us all to avoid porn.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Lee.

Teens maybe.. But my kids are only 6 and 9. I don't want them to be able to view cocks n stuff

Do you not think an opt in system would be better than this? (I think there is aready an opt in system in place actually)

I dont watch porn, but if I did I would feel quite embarrassed having to declare to the world that I did in order to watch it. Whereas I wouldn't feel embarrassed asking for a block put on to protect my kids from accidentally finding it.

I doubt the filter will even work properly anyway. Even with safesearch and such on, you still come across the odd dodgy site.

[Urban Cragou]

What Jesus. said. Parents ought to be responsible for what their children view on the internet and blocking off an entire system for millions of people is absurd.

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Do you not think an opt in system would be better than this? (I think there is aready an opt in system in place actually)

I dont watch porn, but if I did I would feel quite embarrassed having to declare to the world that I did in order to watch it. Whereas I wouldn't feel embarrassed asking for a block put on to protect my kids from accidentally finding it.

I doubt the filter will even work properly anyway. Even with safesearch and such on, you still come across the odd dodgy site.

It also provides a big brother style list for governments to observe. The people that opt in to watch porn will definitely have their internet viewings far more scrutinised than those who don't.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Next you will be telling me that illegally made and distributed porn makers have a union...
Did you not read my earlier post? I said that I appreciate the root cause is what has forced the government to act here.

''Experts from the Child Exploitation and Online Protection Centre will be given more powers to examine secretive file-sharing networks
A secure database of banned child porn images gathered by police across the country will be used to trace illegal content and the paedophiles viewing it''

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-23401076

And the porn block will do nothing to prevent peadophiles from trading and viewing child porn, they'll just find a way around it. It's a poor reason to restrict millions of law abiding citizen's rights and it will ultimately achieve nothing but allow the government a precident in censorship.

Only fools would honestly think that this is a good idea, censorship is never a good idea.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

The daily mail help the current government whip up hatred of poor people in order to have less resistance to cruel cuts and such. Cameron is in their pocket because of this. IMO.

There is probably a lot of truth in what you say there, I totally agree.

Originally Posted by Dezzy

And the porn block will do nothing to prevent peadophiles from trading and viewing child porn, they'll just find a way around it. It's a poor reason to restrict millions of law abiding citizen's rights and it will ultimately achieve nothing but allow the government a precident in censorship.

Only fools would honestly think that this is a good idea, censorship is never a good idea.

Isn't most child porn already traded over darknet? And as such these laws won't even get close to it.

[Lee.]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Do you not think an opt in system would be better than this? (I think there is aready an opt in system in place actually)

I dont watch porn, but if I did I would feel quite embarrassed having to declare to the world that I did in order to watch it. Whereas I wouldn't feel embarrassed asking for a block put on to protect my kids from accidentally finding it.

I doubt the filter will even work properly anyway. Even with safesearch and such on, you still come across the odd dodgy site.

Nah, folk would forget or not bother to switch the porn off, which would make the whole thing pointless. If its just switched off everywhere it makes it safer for kids, and those adults who wish to still watch it can arrange it so..

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Jesus.

Because it's a regulated industry. I don't watch porn from Turkmenistan filmed on a dodgy handheld in the back of a 1974 van.

I'm not saying that there isn't anyone one in the porn industry who is a sex slave, but it seems a bit of a stretch to assume that most people are, and banning porn from computers in the UK, will have a positive impact on human trafficking around the world. It won't.

There are probably people working in fruit farms/restaurants in the UK that have been trafficked. It happens everywhere and in every industry, but porn is actually fairly decent for looking after the people involved these days.

I appreciate there may be, that said if you google the same word can you be guaranteed not to access an unregulated film?
I was told of a girl yesterday admitted by social services at 14 to a local hospital with iron burns all over her body, trafficked for the sex trade.

Maybe the feeling is reduce the supply reduce the demand I don't know, it may be that it is for child protection services to flag up pedophilia and other sex crimes?
I find it hard to believe this is merely a moral issue.

Originally Posted by Lee.

Nah, folk would forget or not bother to switch the porn off, which would make the whole thing pointless. If its just switched off everywhere it makes it safer for kids, and those adults who wish to still watch it can arrange it so..

If they are that bothered by their children viewing porn on the net, they won't forget to turn it off.