[kefln]

So they had a row. The internet went mental, with death threats for Hazel.

While they just sat down and talked it out. There seems to be the basis of real friendship there. You could even hear the sigh of relief during their hug.

[Marsh.]

Hazel could have been beaten black and blue by 3 people and these "haters" would find some way of making it Hazel's fault and somehow make it link back to an OTT VT and the phrase "evil inside". But that's Internet trolls for you.

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by kefln

So they had a row. The internet went mental, with death threats for Hazel.

While they just sat down and talked it out. There seems to be the basis of real friendship there. You could even hear the sigh of relief during their hug.

There is no friendship from Hazel...she wanted an apology from Charlie and Charlie gave it because Hazel made her feel bad about it.
Hazel should have apologised for calling Charlie aggressive...but skirted around that.
Charlie was the 'bigger' person to take the sting out of the atmosphere...Hazel lapped up the 'victim' card.... She is so fake and she is nobodys friend because its 'all about her'....would not trust her as far as I could throw her.

[kefln]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

There is no friendship from Hazel...she wanted an apology from Charlie and Charlie gave it because Hazel made her feel bad about it.
Hazel should have apologised for calling Charlie aggressive...but skirted around that.
Charlie was the 'bigger' person to take the sting out of the atmosphere...Hazel lapped up the 'victim' card.... She is so fake and she is nobodys friend because its 'all about her'....would not trust her as far as I could throw her.

Or maybe...shock horror...charlie knew she had gone too far after drinking...

And you seem to have missed the fact that charlie apologised BEFORE hazel started to talk. Which kind of kills your argument dead.

[rionablue]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

There is no friendship from Hazel...she wanted an apology from Charlie and Charlie gave it because Hazel made her feel bad about it.
Hazel should have apologised for calling Charlie aggressive...but skirted around that.
Charlie was the 'bigger' person to take the sting out of the atmosphere...Hazel lapped up the 'victim' card.... She is so fake and she is nobodys friend because its 'all about her'....would not trust her as far as I could throw her.

That is so not true. Charlie is not an innocent little girl. She says all the wrong things and once they are said it isnt possible to retract them. Hazel explained to Charlie why she was upset when Daley was mentioned. She wants to try and put that behind her. Hazel is ANYTHING but fake as anyone who has been watching the show since the start will have figured out by now. Charlie is a stupid little girl who at 27 should bloody know better!!!!!

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by rionablue

That is so not true. Charlie is not an innocent little girl. She says all the wrong things and once they are said it isnt possible to retract them. Hazel explained to Charlie why she was upset when Daley was mentioned. She wants to try and put that behind her. Hazel is ANYTHING but fake as anyone who has been watching the show since the start will have figured out by now. Charlie is a stupid little girl who at 27 should bloody know better!!!!!

I have watched the show from the start... Hazel is a liar and a manipulative woman...that is Fake by my standards. She has lied and she has manipulated situations.
Maybe Charlie is 27...maybe she should know better...she shows a lot of niavity and maybe thats because she is simply niave. She syas what she sees...its often the truth but tactless from a 27 year old. Its not meant to be nasty because she is not a nasty person. I would rather be niave than a liar and manipulator.

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by kefln

Or maybe...shock horror...charlie knew she had gone too far after drinking...

And you seem to have missed the fact that charlie apologised BEFORE hazel started to talk. Which kind of kills your argument dead.

Hazel made Charlie feel bad the night before... Charlie is a forgiving person...she obviously does not like having an atmosphere. She is childlike and manipulative people like Hazel take advantage of weaker people like Charlie to make them look good. Perhaps if Hazel could have owned up and apologised for wrongfully using the word 'aggressive' instead of 'boistrous' she may have looked a better person. Hazel needs to take responsibility for her actions just as she should have taken responsibility for her behaviour with Daley (and I am not blaming her for Daleys behaviour) but she had a responsibility there that she never IMO held her hands up to.

[reece(:]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

I have watched the show from the start... Hazel is a liar and a manipulative woman...that is Fake by my standards. She has lied and she has manipulated situations.
Maybe Charlie is 27...maybe she should know better...she shows a lot of niavity and maybe thats because she is simply niave. She syas what she sees...its often the truth but tactless from a 27 year old. Its not meant to be nasty because she is not a nasty person. I would rather be niave than a liar and manipulator.

You keep stating the points but never give evidence... the bias hate against Hazel continues.

Great posts kefln.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by reece(:

You keep stating the points but never give evidence... the bias hate against Hazel continues.

Great posts kefln.

Evidence of what? an opinion.... and there is more moaning about Hazel hate than actual Hazel hate tbh.

[rusticgal]

Hazel told Dan she felt 'terrified' by Daley....why did she spend the night alone with him after what happened??? Considering what Daley said to her...considering his aggressive actions 'she told him 'he hadn't done anything wrong!!!!
Charlie accidently hits Hazel in the eye with a cucumber...pissed as a rat and Hazel calls her 'aggressive'... Whose behaviour was worse Daleys or Charlies??? who did she accuse of wrong doing????....Charlie. I state my case...

[rionablue]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Hazel made Charlie feel bad the night before... Charlie is a forgiving person...she obviously does not like having an atmosphere. She is childlike and manipulative people like Hazel take advantage of weaker people like Charlie to make them look good. Perhaps if Hazel could have owned up and apologised for wrongfully using the word 'aggressive' instead of 'boistrous' she may have looked a better person. Hazel needs to take responsibility for her actions just as she should have taken responsibility for her behaviour with Daley (and I am not blaming her for Daleys behaviour) but she had a responsibility there that she never IMO held her hands up to.

Charlie was 80 per cent wrong int he situation. Hazel was 20 per cent. They talked it out. Hazel explained how she felt. She said that if Charlie hadnt mentioend Daley they would just have gone to bed and let it rest at that. She asked for a hug. They hugged they made up. Charlie is acting like a child and always saying the wrong thing so yeah she should have felt bad the night of the argument. There can be no excuses for Charlies behaviour. She was drunk. Hazel WASNT

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Josy

Evidence of what? an opinion.... and there is more moaning about Hazel hate than actual Hazel hate tbh.

I think they meant people ramble about her being a manipulator or a snake but never actually offer an example or situation when she did this.

I could say my opinion is that Sam is a bitch, but it's meaningless with no examples of him being one.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by 08marsh

I think they meant people ramble about her being a manipulator or a snake but never actually offer an example or situation when she did this.

I could say my opinion is that Sam is a bitch, but it's meaningless with no examples of him being one.

Oh people have offered plenty of explanations Marsh, some just choose to ignore them.

[rionablue]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Hazel told Dan she felt 'terrified' by Daley....why did she spend the night alone with him after what happened??? Considering what Daley said to her...considering his aggressive actions 'she told him 'he hadn't done anything wrong!!!!
Charlie accidently hits Hazel in the eye with a cucumber...pissed as a rat and Hazel calls her 'aggressive'... Whose behaviour was worse Daleys or Charlies??? who did she accuse of wrong doing????....Charlie. I state my case...

PLEASE GIVE the Daley situation a rest. Its finished with now. Hazel was uncomforable with the situation as would anyone else in her shoes. Charlie was wrong. Hazel may have over reacted but of course the mention of Daleys name would upset her. Jesus Hazel never for a moment thought Daleyw ould be removed from the house. She even told bb she didnt want him getting into trouble.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Josy

Oh people have offered plenty of explanations Marsh, some just choose to ignore them.

The ones being questioned for explanations don't.

There are plenty of explanations by some posters for their dislike of any housemate but there are a few, dare I say trolls, who just call her everything bar murderer, purely just because it's her. "Irrational" is too mild a term.

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by rionablue

PLEASE GIVE the Daley situation a rest. Its finished with now. Hazel was uncomforable with the situation as would anyone else in her shoes. Charlie was wrong. Hazel may have over reacted but of course the mention of Daleys name would upset her. Jesus Hazel never for a moment thought Daleyw ould be removed from the house. She even told bb she didnt want him getting into trouble.

If I get accused of not backing my points up...then I back them up. Its a discussion...stop shoving things under the carpet. What happened happened and if my opinions of Hazel are based on what I see and situations she has put herself in then I will use them to put my point across. Seems you only want to hear what you WANT to hear.