[Santa's NaughtiNess]

Originally Posted by Withano

You're opinion is clearly biased therefore useless.

We all have right to our opinions.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

We all have right to our opinions.

if your opinion is what Sam done is terrible but if Dexter does several things worse its fine... It isn't an opinion, this is a biased argument.

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

Originally Posted by Withano

if your opinion is what Sam done is terrible but if Dexter does several things worse its fine... It isn't an opinion, this is a biased argument.

That's your opinion. I don't agree.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

That's your opinion. I don't agree.

Nope. Theres a difference between an opinion and a biased argument. If your opinion makes Sam look bad for this reason, Dexter must be worse. Otherwise its a biased argument because it only works one way.

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

Originally Posted by Withano

Nope. Theres a difference between an opinion and a biased argument. If your opinion makes Sam look bad for this reason, Dexter must be worse. Otherwise its a biased argument because it only works one way.

It's an opinion. No more, no less.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

It's an opinion. No more, no less.

No its not.

If my opinion was things from pound land are cheap but things from the 99p shop are not. It wouldn't be an opinion. This is what you are doing.

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

Originally Posted by Withano

No its not.

If my opinion was things from pound land are cheap but things from the 99p shop are not. It wouldn't be an opinion. This is what you are doing.

It's an opinion.

[Verbal]

Without even reading this thread I can tell what its about. 'Sam is disrespectful to women' blah blah

All the men on here altar boys when you were in your early twenties, were you?

And you must be soooo offended by The Inbetweeners

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Withano

Nope. Theres a difference between an opinion and a biased argument. If your opinion makes Sam look bad for this reason, Dexter must be worse. Otherwise its a biased argument because it only works one way.

Must be? I dont think so. The rodeo thing all comes down to if you believe the daily star or not IMO. And even if you believe it, knowing what something is doesnt mean you have done it, or ever thought about doing it, or think its great :S

[Kyle]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Must be? I dont think so. The rodeo thing all comes down to if you believe the daily star or not IMO. And even if you believe it, knowing what something is doesnt mean you have done it, or ever thought about doing it, or think its great :S

What about all that stuff about women being accessories at the beginning then?

That was outrageous if I was a woman I'd.......do something that angry women do Idk

[Kyle]

Someone needs to take her Spexsters off...

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Simple Minds

What about all that stuff about women being accessories at the beginning then?

That was outrageous if I was a woman I'd.......do something that angry women do Idk

Amazing how all that one has said is set aside and near dismissed.
However,something another says like what is related to Sam again in this thread,(amazes me that people want to talk so much about people they dislike).
this is all gospel and right and shocking as to Sam and that view is supported.

While on the other foot any highlighting of the other comments made by Dexter get dismissed almost.

[Indy]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Must be? I dont think so. The rodeo thing all comes down to if you believe the daily star or not IMO. And even if you believe it, knowing what something is doesnt mean you have done it, or ever thought about doing it, or think its great :S

More to the point, if you believe the DS article about the rodeo thing (which even they said was a story he told about something he's heard about, not something he admitted to taking part in), you also have to believe the DS article saying Sam is a violent prick who was barred from pub for assault.

That is an all or nothing situation.

OTOH, the way the two men talk to or about women is not all or nothing. Dexter being disrespectful does not make it impossible for Sam to be disrespectful. Sam being disrespectful does not absolve Dexter. They are two individuals who have done their own things to be judged by.

What we do know is Sam was seen/heard doing things on web clips that were pruned from the web after the fact, other hm's have expressed distaste for his comments, and even Sam himself admitted he'd said some pretty crude things. Why can't those be discussed without Dexter being part of the equation?