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Pincho Paxton · 10-09-2013, 10:57 AM

So now a phone call means something. It doesn't mean anything apart from Charlotte went fruit loops about it. Charlotte is the one that made the phone call into something.

rusticgal · 10-09-2013, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by nina73

she sat there smirking and didn't say a word she knew what they were talking about lauren not so simple as she is portraying

Shes probably smirking cos mummy told her she was favorite to win...
It was Vicky who said she had seen her mum....Carol said 'no she saw a doctor'...then Vicky gave a nod as if to say...yes she did as though she knew something the others didnt. Vicky seemed very aware that Lauren had that 'need' and thats why she got to have that contact. Vicky seems to know that that happened and then found herself defending Laurens right. When Lauren joined the conversation Charlotte made it qyuite clear to lauren what the discussion was about and Lauren clearly understood...she went to say 'I didnt....(probably SEE her mother) but she probably had a conversation with her. I know thats speculation but IF lauren had had NO contact whatsoever she would have said so...she knew what they were talking about.

Pincho Paxton · 10-09-2013, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by rusticgal

Shes probably smirking cos mummy told her she was favorite to win...
It was Vicky who said she had seen her mum....Carol said 'no she saw a doctor'...then Vicky gave a nod as if to say...yes she did as though she knew something the others didnt. Vicky seemed very aware that Lauren had that 'need' and thats why she got to have that contact. Vicky seems to know that that happened and then found herself defending Laurens right. When Lauren joined the conversation Charlotte made it qyuite clear to lauren what the discussion was about and Lauren clearly understood...she went to say 'I didnt....(probably SEE her mother) but she probably had a conversation with her. I know thats speculation but IF lauren had had NO contact whatsoever she would have said so...she knew what they were talking about.

Charlotte was in the wrong no matter what happened, so it makes no difference.

rusticgal · 10-09-2013, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Pincho Paxton

So now a phone call means something. It doesn't mean anything apart from Charlotte went fruit loops about it. Charlotte is the one that made the phone call into something.

But so what....a phone call is still contact with a loved one and contact with the outside world. Lauren didnt 'win' the opportunity...she got it for 'health' reasons.
The only Fruit loop is Lauren and she shouldnt be there....

Pincho Paxton · 10-09-2013, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by rusticgal

But so what....a phone call is still contact with a loved one and contact with the outside world. Lauren didnt 'win' the opportunity...she got it for 'health' reasons.
The only Fruit loop is Lauren and she shouldnt be there....

Charlotte could end up suicidal by the looks of it, and talk to a family member... it's still equal.

rusticgal · 10-09-2013, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Pincho Paxton

Charlotte was in the wrong no matter what happened, so it makes no difference.

....Oh thats it then discussion over!!!...

....or cannot defend the obvious because Charlotte...like her or not....she made a good point...and she was right!!!

Cherie · 10-09-2013, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Pincho Paxton;6371916[B

]So now a phone call means something. It doesn't mean anything [/B]apart from Charlotte went fruit loops about it. Charlotte is the one that made the phone call into something.

Let them all have a phone call eh? No harm done I'm sure.

rusticgal · 10-09-2013, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Pincho Paxton

Charlotte could end up suicidal by the looks of it, and talk to a family member... it's still equal.

If ANYONE seems suicidal...they should be taken out of the house completely.

Pincho Paxton · 10-09-2013, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by rusticgal

If ANYONE seems suicidal...they should be taken out of the house completely.

Is that equal?

Beso · 10-09-2013, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by rusticgal

....Oh thats it then discussion over!!!...

....or cannot defend the obvious because Charlotte...like her or not....she made a good point...and she was right!!!

so if a family member dies or someone breaks a leg, they should not be told nor be allowed back after recieving treatment?

chuff me dizzy · 10-09-2013, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by rusticgal

But so what....a phone call is still contact with a loved one and contact with the outside world. Lauren didnt 'win' the opportunity...she got it for 'health' reasons.
The only Fruit loop is Lauren and she shouldnt be there....

Well said

rusticgal · 10-09-2013, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by parmnion

so if a family member dies or someone breaks a leg, they should not be told nor be allowed back after recieving treatment?

You really cannot compare physical accidents to mental issues. There is nothing physically wrong with Lauren (though some may beg to differ)...she seems to feel very sorry for herself and needs constant reassurance. I am sure her mental issues are genuine...and its obvious she is not the full ticket and if she needs psychological help then she should get it. However a phone call from mummy is not professional help...
The examples you gave are not under question. People have left briefly for those reasons and I have no objection. However this is different....to have this sort of help shows a mental instability and for that reason alone she should not be in the house.

rusticgal · 10-09-2013, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Pincho Paxton

Is that equal?

What a strange reply...??????

Beso · 10-09-2013, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by rusticgal

You really cannot compare physical accidents to mental issues. There is nothing physically wrong with Lauren (though some may beg to differ)...she seems to feel very sorry for herself and needs constant reassurance. I am sure her mental issues are genuine...and its obvious she is not the full ticket and if she needs psychological help then she should get it. However a phone call from mummy is not professional help...
The examples you gave are not under question. People have left briefly for those reasons and I have no objection. However this is different....to have this sort of help shows a mental instability and for that reason alone she should not be in the house.

But you're just assuming that was what it was all about.

I don't know what charlottes moaning about because anyone in the same situation would have been given the same treatment, so it wasn't one rule for one and one rule for another which was basically what she was arguing about. They are all treated the same.

Kizzy · 10-09-2013, 02:31 PM

I think Laure had a mini meltdown at not receiving her letter, she was obv told to keep shtum about something....
Doesn't excuse charlottes behaviour mind.

anne666 · 10-09-2013, 02:42 PM

On live feed today they have muted out Vicky saying to Charlotte that Lauren saw her parents because she was poorly. That was on there yesterday. I saw it and couldn't understand the disbelief. Lauren was sitting with them in on the conversation and there couldn't be any question that they were talking about her parents visiting! The sound now comes back on as Charlotte is saying something about Vicky saying Lauren was poorly.Hard to hear but it's there. I couldn't understand how BB could deny it but erasing the proof helps.Vicky put her foot in it talking about it on live feed. Louie is still there saying she saw them, with no-one disagreeing. Either they all have vivid imaginations or BB are lying. Why ??
Surely someone else saw the un-doctored live feed, anybody?Do they take the public for bloody fools.

fingers · 10-09-2013, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by anne666

On live feed today they have muted out Vicky saying to Charlotte that Lauren saw her parents because she was poorly. That was on there yesterday. I saw it and couldn't understand the disbelief. Lauren was sitting with them in on the conversation and there couldn't be any question that they were talking about her parents visiting! The sound now comes back on as Charlotte is saying something about Vicky saying Lauren was poorly.Hard to hear but it's there. I couldn't understand how BB could deny it but erasing the proof helps.Vicky put her foot in it talking about it on live feed. Louie is still there saying she saw them, with no-one disagreeing. Either they all have vivid imaginations or BB are lying. Why ??
Surely someone else saw the un-doctored live feed, anybody?Do they take the public for bloody fools.

There's your answer right there! . "Do they take the public for bloody fools." Yes they do.

HBB1508 · 10-09-2013, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by fingers

There's your answer right there! . "Do they take the public for bloody fools." Yes they do.

You beat me to it fingers I was just about to post exactly the same thing

anne666 · 10-09-2013, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by fingers

There's your answer right there! . "Do they take the public for bloody fools." Yes they do.

Why do it though? I don't care either way about Lauren but is this all a PR exercise for her. The whole argument was about the preferential treatment for someone who couldn't cope with BB without outside help, that it couldn't then be a level playing field.That was Charlotte's point, not throwing a tantrum because she didn't get a letter. I don't like her but I agree with her point entirely. The edit was also not accurate of course.

fingers · 10-09-2013, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by anne666

Why do it though? I don't care either way about Lauren but is this all a PR exercise for her. The whole argument was about the preferential treatment for someone who couldn't cope with BB without outside help, that it couldn't then be a level playing field.

It was shown on Live Feed, so they had to do something and what they did was just a clumsy, botched attempt to pooh-pooh it with a voiceover on the highlights show, taking the public for another ride.

the_answers · 10-09-2013, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne

Why didn't Lauren put Charlotte and Vicky right about not seeing her mom?

If it's true why should she have done ?

sampvt · 10-09-2013, 03:11 PM

Lauren is well savvy of how bb works and her parents are in on everything she does. I wouldn't put it past all of them to concoct a plan to have Lauren throw a wobbly and insist on speaking to her mum who then could provide some coded or straight up verbal help to tell, show or assist her in some way to alter or follow her game plan. Either way or, this is wrong and even though the context of the Charlotte argument may have been wrong, the fact that nobody deserves special treatment and in light of the fact that Lauren is not all there, if she needs constant monitoring or parental guidance, she should not be on there in the first place. It's a game and in all games rules must nr followed and if you are too injured to play, ypu don't reserve the right to play. End of discussion. Charlotte was right and Bucky easvwronh but Lauren is being Molly coddled by bb for a winners meddle and probably a spin off show to boot. All wrong I m o

Pincho Paxton · 10-09-2013, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by sampvt

Lauren is well savvy of how bb works and her parents are in on everything she does. I wouldn't put it past all of them to concoct a plan to have Lauren throw a wobbly and insist on speaking to her mum who then could provide some coded or straight up verbal help to tell, show or assist her in some way to alter or follow her game plan. Either way or, this is wrong and even though the context of the Charlotte argument may have been wrong, the fact that nobody deserves special treatment and in light of the fact that Lauren is not all there, if she needs constant monitoring or parental guidance, she should not be on there in the first place. It's a game and in all games rules must nr followed and if you are too injured to play, ypu don't reserve the right to play. End of discussion. Charlotte was right and Bucky easvwronh but Lauren is being Molly coddled by bb for a winners meddle and probably a spin off show to boot. All wrong I m o

Lauren's mom probably would tell her that she is doing well. It's a bit unfair, but it's also not Lauren's fault. Her entertainment still stands. If she was depressed, and stared at spiders then she wouldn't be winning. If she was depressed and threw a wobbly like Charlotte then she wouldn't be winning. If she was depressed and bitched like Carol then she wouldn't be winning.

the_answers · 10-09-2013, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by sampvt

if you are too injured to play, ypu don't reserve the right to play.

So if Jackie hurts her arm she's out the game then ?

If so I disagree.

rusticgal · 10-09-2013, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by parmnion

But you're just assuming that was what it was all about.

I don't know what charlottes moaning about because anyone in the same situation would have been given the same treatment, so it wasn't one rule for one and one rule for another which was basically what she was arguing about. They are all treated the same.

Yes I am assuming to an extent...but obviously she has spoken to her mother. If she saw the doctor for a physical injury she would have no reason to be allowed a phone call to her mother. We have all seen how dependant she is on her mother...we have seen her mother to make an assessment of her...so its obviously been a childlike/mental need to have spoken with her.

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