[Black Dagger]

AJ - 11
Alec - 9
Andrew - 7 -
Emmett - 7
Gary - 32
Peter - 20 +
Suzette - 27
Talla - 16

It's a game, get over it pmsl. yawn.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Calling Alec and Peter stars and not Talla and Topaz holylol

[Jack_]

They're commonly known as supporting characters babe, keep trying though 'holylol' xo

[Jack_]

AJ - 10 -
Alec - 10 +
Andrew - 7
Emmett - 7
Gary - 32
Peter - 20
Suzette - 27
Talla - 16

[Macie Lightfoot]

#shielddidntdo**** as the queen would say. But your desperate attempts at trolling are pretty humorous I must admit

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by troynuncdicit

#shielddidntdo**** as the queen would say. But your desperate attempts at trolling are pretty humorous I must admit

LMFAO OMG THIS IS THE BEST POST THIS YEAR

You accusing me of trolling?! You? This is way too much

Give me a ****ing break, this coming from the person that drags members names up in threads sometimes when they haven't even posted and constantly insults their opinions. Yeah, totally not a troll. I could find numerous posts in this thread even that could easily be seen as trolling, so try again and whilst you're at it I think you need to address the evident problem you have with people that have learning difficulties because it's really quite odd

[Raph]

AJ - 10
Alec - 10
Andrew - 7
Emmett - 7
Gary - 32
Peter - 19 -
Suzette - 27
Talla - 17 +

[Macie Lightfoot]

*is appalled that someone accuses you of trolling* *makes up claim that the accuser has a problem with people with learning difficulties* never change Jack

[Jack_]

Except I haven't made it up, your excessive use of the term '******' and other similar ones often as an insult and in a negative manner, along with some questionable posts you've made about such people speaks volumes

[Macie Lightfoot]

Originally Posted by Jack_

Except I haven't made it up, your excessive use of the term '******' and other similar ones often as an insult and in a negative manner, along with some questionable posts you've made about such people speaks volumes

Except I don't excessively use ****** and the only "questionable" post I made was the completely valid point that Dan Gheesling losing a social game to someone on the autism spectrum shows that he sucks. Keep grasping at straws tho

[MeMyselfAndI]

Talla, Andrew, Jillian & Emmet were the stars AND best players as they were original f4

[MeMyselfAndI]

Jillian played a great game. FACT. She was responsible for getting rid of all those sour faced losers

[MeMyselfAndI]

And this game has been ruined, bravo

AJ - 10
Alec - 10
Andrew - 8 +
Emmett - 7
Gary - 32
Peter - 18 -
Suzette - 27
Talla - 17

[MeMyselfAndI]

And this game has been ruined, bravo

AJ - 10
Alec - 10
Andrew - 8 +
Emmett - 7
Gary - 32
Peter - 18 -
Suzette - 27
Talla - 17

[MeMyselfAndI]

I can't take your posts seriously Jack when you think Liza contributed more to the show than Topaz & Talla.
Especially considering Topaz has the most memorable moment of the season (I don't even like her)

[Marc]

AJ - 10
Alec - 10
Andrew - 8
Emmett - 7
Gary - 33 (+)
Peter - 17 (-)
Suzette - 27
Talla - 17

[Macie Lightfoot]

Originally Posted by MeMyselfAndI

Especially considering Topaz has the most memorable moment of the season (I don't even like her)

Even more hilarious when Jack is the forum spokesperson for dreaded "talking points"

[reece(:]

All Liza did was give horrendous Peter and Tom airtime, so shame on her. She is pretty lulzy post-show.

[MeMyselfAndI]

Jillian DID win the game & the money, that is proof that your bitter #justsaying
It's an actual fact, It's not subjective, she won the show, It was aired, millions saw it.

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by MeMyselfAndI

Talla, Andrew, Jillian & Emmet were the stars AND best players as they were original f4

Talla was hilarious and Andrew likeable but they were supporting characters, the former having random drunken antics every couple of episodes and the latter being Jemmett's lapdog. Jill and Emmett were the stars, they just supported them. They seriously didn't contribute as much as Jemmett did

Originally Posted by MeMyselfAndI

Jillian played a great game. FACT. She was responsible for getting rid of all those sour faced losers

She played Emmett's game, I've already explained this in better detail than I'm going to here.

I respect her comp wins and I respect their game as a power couple a hell of a lot, how none of the others thought to put them up is beyond me, they deserved to lose. But Jill's solo game is seriously overrated and no this is not me being bitter since I DID say this whilst the season was on-going in the last few weeks

Emmett played the best game, that is indisputable. He was unlucky to lose the final HoH to Gary in all honesty. Jemmett as a duo played the second best game, but Jill on her own for her dreadful social game alone that left half the jury hating her for constantly lying does not leave her in the top three best players.

Originally Posted by MeMyselfAndI

And this game has been ruined, bravo

AJ - 10
Alec - 10
Andrew - 8 +
Emmett - 7
Gary - 32
Peter - 18 -
Suzette - 27
Talla - 17

How has it been ruined? If people don't want certain people to do well, post more. As I've also already said, I've only been posting so much since some others were doing it first in an attempt to get Peter out. It works both ways

Originally Posted by troynuncdicit

Except I don't excessively use ****** and the only "questionable" post I made was the completely valid point that Dan Gheesling losing a social game to someone on the autism spectrum shows that he sucks. Keep grasping at straws tho

Except you do and if I had access to my laptop right now I'd collate some posts

That wasn't the only post either there's been more since then, look I'm not sure if in the US the term ****** is considered offensive or not but it is in the UK

Originally Posted by MeMyselfAndI

I can't take your posts seriously Jack when you think Liza contributed more to the show than Topaz & Talla.
Especially considering Topaz has the most memorable moment of the season (I don't even like her)

One moment at the end of the season doesn't mean her contribution throughout the entire season was a lot

I didn't even like Liza that much but the reasons I said Gary, Suzette, Peter and Alec, Jemmett and Tom and Liza contributed the most is because the show DID revolve around all of them (Liza was the hated bitch in the middle weeks and her relationships with Tom and Peter were big parts of the episodes), the rest are supporting characters (which again I all loved since I love this cast, but I'm sorry from a how much did the show centre around them standpoint, they didn't compare)

Originally Posted by troynuncdicit

Even more hilarious when Jack is the forum spokesperson for dreaded "talking points"

*makes point about you trolling by dragging members names up in threads and making baiting comments about their opinions*

*goes and does just that*

Once again, keep my name out of your mouth. Thanks

Originally Posted by MeMyselfAndI

Jillian DID win the game & the money, that is proof that your bitter #justsaying
It's an actual fact, It's not subjective, she won the show, It was aired, millions saw it.

If I was really that bitter I wouldn't have watched the infamous moment back since and both enjoyed it and laughed at it. I'm over it, it's a TV show ffs

Also, she actually didn't win because as with almost every aspect of life, the intent of an action is far more important than the actual outcome or consequence

Topaz intended to vote for Gary, he therefore had four votes in order to win. What actually happened comes second, yes she won the money and got the confetti because she HAD to, but she did not win because she did not win four jury votes.

If someone intends to commit a murder and plots it, then goes out planning to go ahead with it but chickens out at the last minute, and then the police find out...you WILL be arrested and charged with intent to murder, since that's what you were going to do and that's more important than what you actually did.

Similarly, if I went to a shop with the intention of buying my mum a certain present only to find out it had sold out and I had no time to get that thing, the intention counts a lot more than what actually happened. Not a great analogy but my point is that intent > result, in most aspects of life. The jury voting is the same, yes she got four votes and won the money and the title, but she didn't actually play a good enough game to actually secure four jury votes without needing a misvote to happen. I'm sorry but you can't deny this

I don't care that she won since it's a TV show and it's long over and plus she was by default one of the better players since she actually bothered to play whereas everyone with the exception of her, Emmett, Gary and Tom (even if his game was dreadful) didn't do anything, therefore I'm glad she took it over let's say Talla, but her game is still overrated and she didn't actually persuade four jurors to intend to cast their votes for her, even she would admit this

[reece(:]

Who's saying Jillian didn't win?

[MeMyselfAndI]

Part of Jacks massive paragraphs on page 9, I stopped reading after that ludicrous lie.

[Marc]

AJ - 10
Alec - 10
Andrew - 7
Emmett - 7
Gary - 35 (+)
Peter - 16 (-)
Suzette - 27
Talla - 17

[MeMyselfAndI]

I'm not going to be plussing Gary at all now, He was one of my favorites watching the series off TiBB, but coming on here has made me not like him anymore
Anyone but Peter/Alec/Gary to win, I'll plus whoever is left bar them in the f3

[reece(:]

Originally Posted by MeMyselfAndI

I'm not going to be plussing Gary at all now, He was one of my favorites watching the series off TiBB, but coming on here has made me not like him anymore
Anyone but Peter/Alec/Gary to win, I'll plus whoever is left bar them in the f3

I don't think that matters since the top three will be those three unfortunately