[Ruth]

Originally posted by nodisharmony

"Back on topic, sounds good to us all"

(Why is Jade a Goody example?)

She has the word, (Good) in her name. Jade (Good)y

That's one reason and a good one to start off with.

Any other good reasons that anyone can think of?

We keep hearing the bad stuff. What about the good stuff.

What???????? We're supposed to think that the name that she was given by birth means that she must be a good person. Hang on - I've got a friend whose surname is green. Does that mean their skin should be green? What about people with the surnames Baker, Butcher or Cook? Should they all be employed as Bakers, Butchers or Cooks? If that is the best reason you can give people as to why they like Jade, then....

[James]

I don't like how Jade uses her children to get publicity. I was looking at the photo.wenn.com site and there is one of those obvious paparazzi shots which are really setup of her and her children.

It must be setup because I'm sure the papers don't print pictures of peoples' children (unless it is at public event) unless they get the parents permission.

[nodisharmony]

Originally posted by James
I don't like how Jade uses her children to get publicity. I was looking at the photo.wenn.com site and there is one of those obvious paparazzi shots which are really setup of her and her children.

It must be setup because I'm sure the papers don't print pictures of peoples' children (unless it is at public event) unless they get the parents permission.

Jade Goody will have advisors who will make suggestions. Some Jade will agree on and some she won't.

This one example that you have pointed out could easily look like a setup.

Maybe it was?

I guess that is just part of the problem from the large camp of people who choose not to like her.

I would rather have the problems that they have, than what Jade, Jo & Danielle have to put up with since CBB Jan.

[nodisharmony]

Originally posted by Ruth

What???????? We're supposed to think that the name that she was given by birth means that she must be a good person. Hang on - I've got a friend whose surname is green. Does that mean their skin should be green? What about people with the surnames Baker, Butcher or Cook? Should they all be employed as Bakers, Butchers or Cooks? If that is the best reason you can give people as to why they like Jade, then....

That was a private-joke to a forum member who I shall label as, "x"

Naturally, if you have, "Good" in your surname, it means nothing. However, there are nice parts to Jade and some people could tell you, but they probably wouldn't bother?

I understand what they must think!

[Sunny_01]

I am not so sure that I would say she should be in the top 10 list of good mothers, that said I wouldnt assume to question someone elses parenting skills.

What I will say is as a mother myself I would try at all costs to spare my children from the constant glare of the media. Jade is not the only celeb mum who rolls her kids out for the cameras though so I really dont think she should be vilified for it!

[James]

Originally posted by nodisharmony

Jade Goody will have advisors who will make suggestions. Some Jade will agree on and some she won't.

This one example that you have pointed out could easily look like a setup.

Maybe it was?

I guess that is just part of the problem from the large camp of people who choose not to like her.

I would rather have the problems that they have, than what Jade, Jo & Danielle have to put up with since CBB Jan.

I'm just wondering... why do you like Jade?

[lily.]

Originally posted by Sunny_01
I am not so sure that I would say she should be in the top 10 list of good mothers, that said I wouldnt assume to question someone elses parenting skills.

I wonder what these awards are about really? I mean, what criteria do they have to fit to win one? I see what you are saying about not questioning their parenting skills. But, the awards are obviously not based on parenting skills because the media know as much as we do about whether these women are good mothers or not.

The award is just a cheap piece of publicity. It's completely meaningless (as has been shown by previous winners). So, Jade might as well have it as it doesn't actually earn her any more respect.

[nodisharmony]

Originally posted by James

I'm just wondering... why do you like Jade?

I am more against "corruption" and "unfairness" and "politics".

Notice how I never diss Shilpa Shetty. Also, I have not dissed any housemate either.

I am zoning in on Jade Goody, as I am intelligent enough to work out, how much she is hated over her apparent Racism.

She is a household name and also, very popular.

I have seen how other forum members have admitted that they didn't mind her before CBB Jan. In fact, a few liked her.

However, as Big Brother decided to zone in on this possible racial angle, as it was very controversial and if Endemol could work out that it would offend the Indian community, then, it is even easier to assume that it would create fantastic ratings, at the expence of three girl's lives.

Danielle Lloyd said some terrible comments, but, people cannot look past her gorgeous looks, so they let her off. Jade Goody has not been known for looking gorgeous, also, Jade has known to speak her mind. If you lie to her, she will point it out and make it into a huge argument.

But, is it Jade playing to the cameras? We know how bad ratings would be, if Big Brother was all friendly. The show has to be exciting and dramatic and even controversial at times.

If Big Brother 8 doesn't get the right sponser, or any sponser, and the show is very nice and polite, with everybody getting on, the ratings could get so low, that this could be the end?

I hope it doesn't go this way.

Jade Goody is a controversial housemate. This is true! But I was horrified about the racial part, which was so over the top and also, over-stated.

I think it is unfair to tell a white house-mate, that, it is alright to argue with a future white house-mate, however, if they are Asian, then, be nice and be careful.

I think that is prejudicial.

I do have strong views on the fairness side of "Racism". I believe that we should all be equal and that it shouldn't be one rule for them and another rule for us. If a white person gets abuse over being white in colour, it should be taken just as seriously.

If Jade, Jo & Danielle felt that Shilpa Shetty was patronising them in every way or, looking down at them, because she had a high opinion of herself, then, that is just their opinion of the woman.

Nobody can click with everybody, if words sounded like they had "racial-over-tones?", then the Big Brother show should have realised this and birdwistled it out.

I can't accept Endemol's rule, stating that they will not tolerate racism, but, will allow this furore to take place, which is very obvious to look & appear to some, to have maybe "racial-over-tones"

[Mrluvaluva]

Some good points there. It is actually a shame that we have to analyse everything with the word "racism" in the back of our minds. In an ideal world, we could just look at situations like this purely as an argument. But unfortunately, we do not live in an ideal world. It is acceptable for anyone, of any creed and colour, to have an argument, one on one. It becomes unacceptable, when somebodys skin colour, or cultural background, comes into play.

[Bells]

What about the fact that Jade was blatantly bullying Shilpa? Is that acceptable? Hardly! And people can't say that only the racial issue ties into it, because Jade also bullied people - namely Sophie - in BB3. She isn't a good example in the slightest, before I was neutral on her and now I can't stand her. Despite what I may hear, I only judge people based on my own opinions. She's been displaying unacceptable behaviour constantly, yet has been given another chance time and again. This particular time though her ignorance and her general appalling behaviour has put a large proportion of the general public off her completely.

I still have the picture of her in the back of my head, how she was screaming and shouting and using absolutely disgusting language in the CBB5 house. This to me is NOT someone who is a good example, not in the slightest. Fans saying 'She is a household name, and very popular' etc. can keep saying that, but their argument isn't justified. Jade perhaps was popular at one point, yes, but people have woken up now and their opinions have changed. If fans could actually tell me what it is they like about her at present, what qualities etc., then I might just listen.

[nodisharmony]

Originally posted by ice_maiden02
What about the fact that Jade was blatantly bullying Shilpa? Is that acceptable? Hardly! And people can't say that only the racial issue ties into it, because Jade also bullied people - namely Sophie - in BB3. She isn't a good example in the slightest, before I was neutral on her and now I can't stand her. Despite what I may hear, I only judge people based on my own opinions. She's been displaying unacceptable behaviour constantly, yet has been given another chance time and again. This particular time though her ignorance and her general appalling behaviour has put a large proportion of the general public off her completely.

I still have the picture of her in the back of my head, how she was screaming and shouting and using absolutely disgusting language in the CBB5 house. This to me is NOT someone who is a good example, not in the slightest. Fans saying 'She is a household name, and very popular' etc. can keep saying that, but their argument isn't justified. Jade perhaps was popular at one point, yes, but people have woken up now and their opinions have changed. If fans could actually tell me what it is they like about her at present, what qualities etc., then I might just listen.

I know you don't want to watch it again?

But here goes:

(Part 1) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAQMhirfXKQ

then

(Part 2) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHYFxcd6H0c
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Jade Goody's argument was the main reason that people hate her so much at the moment.

Everything else she said and the other two Danielle & Jo said was added to it. All part of the equasion, but the big argument was the main part.

If you watch the videos, firstly, you can notice how easily, this argument could have been avoided. It took over two minutes before Jade made her point loudly.

Whether Jade was just playing to the cameras, just being "typical Jade", who knows?

The second part which you notice, is, that Jade wasn't calling Shilpa Shetty a liar for nothing. Shilpa said that she had just ordered one OxO cube. This is there to see.

It is just an argument and both are grown-ups and Shilpa could have just accepted that she made a mistake and the argument would have dissolved.

Shilpa played into the girls trap and fell in head first. That was just too bad on the day.

It is wrong to bully anyone and if Shilpa Shetty felt she had been bullied, then, all she has to do, is, walk into the Diary Room and make a complaint.

This is what the diary room is for. If you have a problem, Big Brother will sort it. If you are not happy, then you threaten to leave the house. If, that doesn't work, then you will leave.

Big Brother didn't help Leo Sayer, but I don't blame Big Brother for not pleasing Leo, as he behaved so infantile and his complaints were also petty. He just made a fool out of himself, which we all saw. This doesn't mean that he is a bad person generally. It just means that, on the day, he made a bad judgement call and just lost it.

Shilpa didn't deal with it well and listened to Jermaine & followed his advice.

It is difficult and Jade Goody has admitted her wrong doing and also, she recognizes how many have been offeneded and has done what she can to make things right.

However, Jade Goody has acted like this before, on Big Brother 3 and another show, very similar to Big Brother, where Rick Waller was her victim. But, if you look at each situation, she has other housemates who agree with some of what Jade says and also, you need to disprove that Jade Goody is actually wrong. Can you say that Jade is wrong to call someone a Liar & a Fake? If they are?

[Bells]

I really don’t want to watch it again; it makes me feel sick and simply develops my dislike of Jade further.
However, in response to your post - Shilpa is not a liar or a fake, people just don’t understand her and are ignorant of both her background and culture. You’ve got to remember that she is a huge international star, has a fanbase of millions, and therefore WILL have a certain air about her – however, it is one of grace, dignity and confidence, as opposed to falseness. Why should she make a complaint and leave because of some foulmouthed, insecure woman – she’s a strong girl and took care of herself despite getting upset at times. She proved herself that she was the bigger person when she left the Big Brother house, through the way in which she handled the situation. You’re saying she didn’t deal with things well, I say she simply could not have dealt with it any better.

In addition, you yourself are giving me examples of Jade Goody being horrible to others. Are you saying that just because she may have other people agree with her, her behaviour is acceptable? Because it’s not. And anyway, the people who do ‘agree’ with her probably even don’t; Danielle for example was just following the leader, being the weakling she is with no evidence of opinions for herself. Besides, she gave her true opinion of Shilpa after Jade left in fact, and in her eviction interview.

To be honest, I don’t really know why I’m sat here trying to make you see sense, because I can tell from your argument that you don’t really have a lot of evidence, references and facts because it’s quite weak in terms of defending Jade. Instead, you’re giving me all the more reason to argue against her. And I notice you, as well as any Jade fans there may be, cunningly avoid any questions asking what qualities there are about Jade at present that are actually likeable. I spelt it out pretty clear in my last post on this thread – and as I said, until I can read anything worth reading on this matter, my mind is pretty firmly made up.

[Dr43%er]

Nodis, I see you have now moved to the "she was playing up for the cameras" angle. Not seen that one from you befor. That makes it all ok then. Sorry for anything I may have said against her. I also now see that you have just been playing up too with your views of race. I now know that your "swarms of *****" comment wa just to make jdonline more interesting.

Thanks for clearing this up.

[nodisharmony]

Originally posted by Dr43%er
Nodis, I see you have now moved to the "she was playing up for the cameras" angle. Not seen that one from you befor. That makes it all ok then. Sorry for anything I may have said against her. I also now see that you have just been playing up too with your views of race. I now know that your "swarms of *****" comment wa just to make jdonline more interesting.

Thanks for clearing this up.

I am watching Coronation Street at the moment.

There is a new family that has moved into the street. Tracy Barlow used to live in the house where this new family has moved into.

Just as the new family were moving in, Tracy has just hurled some abuse at them. Saying that they have got the house cheap, etc..

It was funny timing actually Dr43%er, just a second before this, Gail Platt just said it was a very friendly street.

Do you know something Dr43%er, I expect that, by the end of the year, there will be loads of trouble and arguments and sex and cheating and loads more drama.

This is going to be really interesting and should make some increased ratings for the show?

What I shall do, is, call you (Dr43%er) as the trouble and myself as (The lovely Angel) to rescue three girls in mortal danger from tv shows.

[Dr43%er]

Err?

[nodisharmony]

Originally posted by ice_maiden02
I really don’t want to watch it again; it makes me feel sick and simply develops my dislike of Jade further.
However, in response to your post - Shilpa is not a liar or a fake, people just don’t understand her and are ignorant of both her background and culture. You’ve got to remember that she is a huge international star, has a fanbase of millions, and therefore WILL have a certain air about her – however, it is one of grace, dignity and confidence, as opposed to falseness. Why should she make a complaint and leave because of some foulmouthed, insecure woman – she’s a strong girl and took care of herself despite getting upset at times. She proved herself that she was the bigger person when she left the Big Brother house, through the way in which she handled the situation. You’re saying she didn’t deal with things well, I say she simply could not have dealt with it any better.

In addition, you yourself are giving me examples of Jade Goody being horrible to others. Are you saying that just because she may have other people agree with her, her behaviour is acceptable? Because it’s not. And anyway, the people who do ‘agree’ with her probably even don’t; Danielle for example was just following the leader, being the weakling she is with no evidence of opinions for herself. Besides, she gave her true opinion of Shilpa after Jade left in fact, and in her eviction interview.

To be honest, I don’t really know why I’m sat here trying to make you see sense, because I can tell from your argument that you don’t really have a lot of evidence, references and facts because it’s quite weak in terms of defending Jade. Instead, you’re giving me all the more reason to argue against her. And I notice you, as well as any Jade fans there may be, cunningly avoid any questions asking what qualities there are about Jade at present that are actually likeable. I spelt it out pretty clear in my last post on this thread – and as I said, until I can read anything worth reading on this matter, my mind is pretty firmly made up.

You have the right to dislike or hate Jade Goody, just as Jade's many fans out there.

She has a forum about her:- http://www.jadegoodyonline.com/

and another website, temporarily out of action, but states the truth on the home-page
http://www.jadegoody.co.uk/

and the main site, which is also off air, but went for sale on Ebay, but didn't sell?
http://www.jadegoody.org/

Jade Goody is a household name. Many children born after Jade Goody became well known, would have been called, "Jade". I saw an article about it once.

She was very popular and if you think she is such a bully and a bad person in real life. How can anybody possibly like her??

Tell me, Tell me??

She does have a massive appeal and many people relate to her crazy & quirky personality.
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I don't know a lot about Shilpa Shetty. However, what I did see on Celebrity Big Brother in January, was a woman who was very polite and friendly. She seemed to want to know and learn about each and every housemate.

She was the kind of person I would want to know. She came over very nice.

There again, the Mafia can come over very nice too.

We don't really know Shilpa, as we only know about the good side. Maybe she is generally good? Who knows and Who cares? Unless you are a fan! But you would only believe the good stuff and dismiss the bad stuff.

Friends support, enemies condemn and the like.

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Jade Goody is much different.

She is rougher around the edges. More like a "realist" and possibly "streetwise"

Many people are like that. I know loads!!

Plenty of their lives are made up by swearing and shouting. (Those who shout the loudest get heard the most) and all that.

Jade Goody is not agressive to everyone. We see her on many shows and interviews, (Try not to be Naive or have a clouded judgement, as you have Shilpa Shetty lodged in your brain.) It can happen.

If you annoy someone, they may react differently? Jade Goody will react in her way and you will just have to accept that.

Some people need more care than others.

Try working in an old-people's home and the staff there have to deal with all types.

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I don't avoid questions! If you write a big post and some questions I have to brush through, as there are more important points that need to be brought to peoples attention.

[Bells]

Funny you should mention an old-peoples' home. I actually help out at one (voluntary work) and do come across different types of people. However I don't really see how that has got anything to do with what we're discussing at the moment. You're trying to say Jade Goody's a different sort of person? Well yeah, obviously! Every single person on the face of the earth is different, with different individual qualities - how that makes Jade a good person or a good example is beyond me.

How could anyone possibly like her? Because of her crazy and quirky personality yes, as you say. But that was in the past. She didn't show her true colours, some even think she just plays up to the camera because at the end of the day her whole career has been based on her 'performance' and the way she behaved in BB3 and the follow-up. Whilst I am not saying I agree with that, it is a view. You can still be crazy and quirky yet a rubbish example and generally a bully as well as an ignorant person. I don't see how that makes an awful lot of difference. You keep giving me links to websites saying Jade isn't racist. It's gone past that stage now. I'm talking about her general behaviour and all the other things she said. I don't like ANYTHING about her.

We don't know much about Shilpa? That's quite ignorant of you. You could easily search up on her yourself, or perhaps ask someone who is part of that culture, and knows about her. The sources aren't lacking in the slightest. So it's not that I have her lodged in my brain, it's just that I know the facts and have seen the evidence for myself. To add to that, since it's her argument with Jade that was primarily brought up, I think it makes sense to tell you about Shilpa's side of things and how she dealt with the situation. I don't quite get what you mean about Jade being on shows and interviews - obviously she's not going to be aggressive on those?! So you'll have to explain that a bit rather than going on about me being naive.

Jade might react in 'her' way, but for me, I choose not to accept it, sorry. Plenty of other people feel the same way. For me, her behaviour is not the sort I'd ever accept and so I'm not going to sit around and listen to people tell me that I should.

[nodisharmony]

Originally posted by ice_maiden02
Funny you should mention an old-peoples' home. I actually help out at one (voluntary work) and do come across different types of people. However I don't really see how that has got anything to do with what we're discussing at the moment. You're trying to say Jade Goody's a different sort of person? Well yeah, obviously! Every single person on the face of the earth is different, with different individual qualities - how that makes Jade a good person or a good example is beyond me.

How could anyone possibly like her? Because of her crazy and quirky personality yes, as you say. But that was in the past. She didn't show her true colours, some even think she just plays up to the camera because at the end of the day her whole career has been based on her 'performance' and the way she behaved in BB3 and the follow-up. Whilst I am not saying I agree with that, it is a view. You can still be crazy and quirky yet a rubbish example and generally a bully as well as an ignorant person. I don't see how that makes an awful lot of difference. You keep giving me links to websites saying Jade isn't racist. It's gone past that stage now. I'm talking about her general behaviour and all the other things she said. I don't like ANYTHING about her.

We don't know much about Shilpa? That's quite ignorant of you. You could easily search up on her yourself, or perhaps ask someone who is part of that culture, and knows about her. The sources aren't lacking in the slightest. So it's not that I have her lodged in my brain, it's just that I know the facts and have seen the evidence of myself. Additionally, since it's her argument with Jade that was primarily brought up, I think it makes sense to tell you about Shilpa's side of things and how she dealt with the situation. I don't quite get what you mean about Jade being on shows and interviews - obviously she's not going to be aggressive on those?! So you'll have to explain that a bit rather than going on about me being naive.

Jade might react in 'her' way, but for me, I choose not to accept it, sorry. Plenty of other people feel the same way. For me, her behaviour is not the sort I'd ever accept and so I'm not going to sit around and listen to people tell me that I should.

I brought up the Old People's home, as, many old people can be difficult to deal with and the staff there have to be understanding and patient too.

Jade Goody has a firery personality and that is true. So, she needs a different kind of attention. Be aware of her and don't let her know that somebody is a liar.

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People do like Jade Goody! I know, it is mad and crazy to believe. But she is worth millions and she was in mass demand. Accept it...

I don't want to know anything about Shilpa. She is a Bollywood actress. I had never heard of her before. I don't think anyone else in the house knew her? Or any other white English person either. Well, maybe a few??

Jade goes on Interviews and behaves nice. Naturally she isn't going to be nasty, but she has done loads of other things and the judgements you make are only from three appearances and what you see on the newspapers. That is why I said the word, "naive". Don't take that the wrong way! I am generally nice and tactful actually. Unless it is to forum members, (Spacebandit) or (Dr43%er) then it is all out war.

You are entitled to your opinion of Jade Goody. But, don't wish her harm, just because of her behavior on three shows.

She is a mother and naturally wants her children to be safe.

[Bells]

Not once have I wished her harm. If you read the first two pages of this thread, you'll see what I've said about her motherhood, and some of the posts you even replied to. Although despite everything, just because she is a mother doesn't mean she 'naturally' wants her children to be safe - even though I'm not necessarily disagreeing, you can't state that as a fact.I am normally very judged and fair myself. You may think you're nice and tactful, but you're not the most open-minded person I've come across I must admit. I don't understand how you can say things like 'Don't let her know that you are a liar' when you probably don't know the facts yourself, and to be completely honest I doubt Jade does either! And if you don't want to know about Shilpa when you're discussing her argument with Jade, then how you can structure your own argument I have no idea. It's not her background I'm on about, but her behaviour in the house and the way she handles situations. You've just ended the argument right there by saying you don’t want to know.

And you're saying that people actually like Jade – well, perhaps, but a very limited number in my view. Of course I know she's worth millions and was in mass demand, those are not the factors I'm choosing to ignore and not accept. I'm baffled as to what you mean by telling me not to judge Jade based on what I've seen of her. What I've seen is what everyone else in the general public has seen, I believe. What is it that you know about her that we perhaps don't? You somehow keep avoiding the question I repeatedly ask, and that is what qualities do you actually like about her at present? It really is beyond my comprehension, because based on everything I've posted recently, my opinion has only become stronger.

[mansi]

it's wrong to compare individuals at old folks home with jade's behaviour...irrelevant ..

[nodisharmony]

Originally posted by ice_maiden02
Not once have I wished her harm. If you read the first two pages of this thread, you'll see what I've said about her motherhood, and some of the posts you even replied to. Although despite everything, just because she is a mother doesn't mean she 'naturally' wants her children to be safe - even though I'm not necessarily disagreeing, you can't state that as a fact.I am normally very judged and fair myself. You may think you're nice and tactful, but you're not the most open-minded person I've come across I must admit. I don't understand how you can say things like 'Don't let her know that you are a liar' when you probably don't know the facts yourself, and to be completely honest I doubt Jade does either! And if you don't want to know about Shilpa when you're discussing her argument with Jade, then how you can structure you own argument I have no idea. It's not her background I'm on about, but her behaviour in the house and the way she handles situations. You've just ended the argument right there by saying you don’t want to know.

And you're saying that people actually like Jade – well, perhaps, but a very limited number in my view. Of course I know she's worth millions and was in mass demand, those are not the factors I'm choosing to ignore and not accept. I'm baffled as to what you mean by telling me not to judge Jade based on what I've seen of her. What I've seen is what everyone else in the general public has seen, I believe. What is it that you know about her that we perhaps don't? You somehow keep avoiding the question I repeatedly ask, and that is what qualities do you actually like about her at present? It really is beyond my comprehension, because based on everything I've posted recently, my opinion has only become stronger.

I understand that you don't wish her harm. But, it is a justified view from herself, that there are fanatical people out there, who may go in that direction?

Do you want something concrete?

click on this newspaper article of recent violent events which would make Jade expect more trouble and further apprehention :-
http://www.unrealitytv.co.uk/celebri...ked-in-street/

Jackiey Budden Attacked In Street
File under: celebrity big brother, Jackiey Goody
Jackiey Goody, Celebrity Big Brother housemate and mum of Jade Goody, was set upon by a group of four asian men on Friday who pushed her up against a car and called her a racist b***h.

Jackiey told The People, “I’m absolutely petrified. I thought my life was getting back to normal after everything that happened with Big Brother and all that.

“But what happened on Friday has come as a real setback. I don’t want to let these people force me out of my manor, that would mean they won. Anyone who knows me knows I’m not a bad person.”

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I have edited that comment about the (Liar) part. I was actually referring to somebody generally, not yourself.

I saw Shilpa in the house and watched the edited footage which Big Brother let us see.

I am open-minded enough, to work out that is not hard to work out that Jade, Jo & Danielle could have been provoked by edited out unseen footage. Shilpa saying something, for instance?

If many people like Jade, I can understand why she is so wealthy and in such demand. You say a limited amount like her?? is that twenty, thirty?? name a reasonable figure which would match her bank balance please.

It is hard to say, why someone likes a celebrity?

I like Charles Bronson in movies. But, I can't say why, I just do.

I like Bernard Manning. He's so funny! But I can't laugh at anything Harry Hill ever says. He is so UN-funny, to me.

[Sunny_01]

Originally posted by Linda

I wonder what these awards are about really? I mean, what criteria do they have to fit to win one? I see what you are saying about not questioning their parenting skills. But, the awards are obviously not based on parenting skills because the media know as much as we do about whether these women are good mothers or not.

The award is just a cheap piece of publicity. It's completely meaningless (as has been shown by previous winners). So, Jade might as well have it as it doesn't actually earn her any more respect.

I see where you are coming from there Linda. I am not sure how they are judged to be honest and would be really interested to find out. Are they done via opinion poll! are they done based on good deeds! I mean with Jordan it I would imagine has been to do with her support of her poorly son who has spent a lot of time in and out of hospital. She has shown a big committment to him (as would any mother)

That all said I reckon I should get mother of the year award. I trail my daughter all over the country for her ice hockey games. I give up at least 2 of my evenings a week to take her to train and 2 fridays a month I travel to either Sheffield or Coventry for her to train from 10pm till midnight for the northern conference team, then get back in my car and drive her home (while she rests lol)

I also in between all of that look after my house, work full time, and support my eldest daughter who is pregnant by attending appointments with her and have also helped with decorating her new house.

Does that put me in line for next awards

[Dr43%er]

I like Bernard Manning. He's so funny!

Why am I not surprised. I am shocked though. Me and you agree on something. Harry Hill is not funny.

[lily.]

Originally posted by Sunny_01
Does that put me in line for next awards

Yeah, ordinary people should get it too......

[Sunny_01]

Originally posted by Linda

Yeah, ordinary people should get it too......

I will nominate you next time round Linda but you did say ordinary people so not that sure that we will qualify