[Z]

Lee is ****ing disgusting. Nobody deserves to have that done to them. Just shows his sleazy nature.

[Pincho Paxton]

Assault, and playful are a fine line. To me this is playful.

[Slevin]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Might be thinking of when Denise pulled down the trousers of one of the twins in CBB9?

nah. that was the series i missed cause my PC went to **** then i got a new one in time for BB13. i still need to watch that sometime but since i watch more than BB i havent really had the time.

lmao now i remember it was a series of The Challenge: Battle of the Exes when Vinnie pulled down Mandi's top when they were at a club and there was an uproar at another forum. its the only thing i watch on MTV over here in the US cause Rivals II i was happy that CT finally won it after like 9-10 challenges.

[Z]

Originally Posted by Pincho Paxton

Assault, and playful are a fine line. To me this is playful.

Obviously seeing the footage would help to clarify which category it falls under and I'm sure it wasn't meant in an aggressive way but I think it's unacceptable to pulled someone's clothing off them without their consent; I hope we're not about to see Luisa and Lee get it on in the coming days...

[wendywillow]

if a girl takes off her clothes for a living doesn't mean you can rip her top off anytime you like. we live in a SOCIETY! (Seinfeld reference)

[PrincessIona]

A source said: “In any other environment, this would be seen as an indecent assault.

“Luisa tried to laugh about it but if a man did that to a girl in a club, the police would be called.”

Not sure what environment or clubs they are talking about but I've never known this to be much of an issue, even when a stranger does this sort of thing.

I don't like Lee but this is an over reaction by bb

[MachoPoodle]

Originally Posted by PrincessIona

Not sure what environment or clubs they are talking about but I've never known this to be much of an issue, even when a stranger does this sort of thing.

I don't like Lee but this is an over reaction by bb

Someone pulling a woman's top up isn't much of an issue? Of course it is! And whether or not it's a stranger doing it or someone you know doesn't matter. It's about not having the right to make decisions about someone else's body, end of.

[optimisticcynic]

I've not seen the clip, but that makes no difference. The whole issue rests simply with Luisa. If Luisa is at all upset by this act then it is wrong. If she doesn't mind and does this with Lee all the time and it is a shared joke, then it is consensual, although not to everyone's taste. But as stated, the only opinion that matters here is Luisa's. BTW, what has she said about it?

[reece(:]

If Luisa was upset with it she'd probably get labelled the same names Hazel was after complaining about Daley.

[Lex]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Had Jim done it....different story.

Yes you are 100% correct Rusty. ...but then Jim's not with the 'in-crowd' is he! ...and it would have been Luisa and especially Linda's "dream come true" ...when a ' highly-distraught victim' Louisa slowly and dramatically dragged herself up to the diary room to lodge an official complaint of 'sexual assault' against the "Evil Pervert"!! ...

[RichardG]

Originally Posted by PrincessIona

Not sure what environment or clubs they are talking about but I've never known this to be much of an issue, even when a stranger does this sort of thing.

I don't like Lee but this is an over reaction by bb

[Lex]

Originally Posted by Lex

Yes you are 100% correct Rusty. ...but then Jim's not with the 'in-crowd' is he! ...and it would have been Luisa and especially Linda's "dream come true" ...when a ' highly-distraught victim' Louisa slowly and dramatically dragged herself up to the diary room to lodge an official complaint of 'sexual assault' against the "Evil Pervert"!! ...

Oh!...I forgot to add that when she had finally reached the big brother chair [with the aid of the very concerned Linda of course] Luisa would have jibbered through her contrived tears that she required "that monster.. removing from the house immediately..The police called on the emergency-line...but firstly, call her agent to negotiate the best terms available from all of the trashy rags and mags possible"!..."Oh, and call my lawyer to see how much compensation Jim could be worth?" ...

[Jack_]

Some of the comments in this thread remind me of those people that say women who dress provocatively 'had it coming to them' if they're raped

I expect it was playful yes but a warning is justified

[Lex]

Originally Posted by Jack_

Some of the comments in this thread remind me of those people that say women who dress provocatively 'had it coming to them' if they're raped

I expect it was playful yes but a warning is justified

Yes..that sounded pretty grown up Jack!...but you failed to address the "what if it had been Jim?" aspect to the scenario!...honest opinions please?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Free the Luisa 2

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Lex

Yes..that sounded pretty grown up Jack!...but you failed to address the "what if it had been Jim?" aspect to the scenario!...honest opinions please?

No need for the sarcasm, there are plenty of posts in this thread that sound exactly like the argument I just raised

And well it's all about context isn't it, Jim's not as close to Luisa as Lee is is he? In fact they quite clearly have rather big issues with each other, and plus Jim has a history of sexism and so to do that wouldn't exactly be great for his reputation would it now? Not quite sure why you're bringing Jim up and insinuating I'm biased against him anyway when he and Luisa are my favourites but okay

[smeagol]

so she doesn't mind and he still gets a warning lol.

people tend to know the type of people they can do that too. it isnt like he done it to Liz

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by smeagol

so she doesn't mind and he still gets a warning lol.

people tend to know the type of people they can do that too. it isnt like he done it to Liz

..is there a 'type' of person that it's acceptable to do that to..?..

[smeagol]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..is there a 'type' of person that it's acceptable to do that to..?..

yeah there is. you know when your in their company obviously friends.
The amount of times some girl has grabbed by trouser snake or tried to pull my trousuers down id be a millionair lol ok i paid them to do it but thats beside the point lol

friends know eachother and what they can do and not do.

[Pincho Paxton]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..is there a 'type' of person that it's acceptable to do that to..?..

Yeah, there is a right person, and a right time else our population would be 2.

[Kazanne]

has this been shown on CBB?

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by smeagol

yeah there is. you know when your in their company obviously friends.
The amount of times some girl has grabbed by trouser snake or tried to pull my trousuers down id be a millionair lol ok i paid them to do it but thats beside the point lol

friends know eachother and what they can do and not do.

..in the BB house, they're not 'friends', they've only been in there a few weeks...

[Me. I Am Salman]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Had Jim done it....different story.

Originally Posted by Lex

Yes you are 100% correct Rusty. ...but then Jim's not with the 'in-crowd' is he! ...and it would have been Luisa and especially Linda's "dream come true" ...when a ' highly-distraught victim' Louisa slowly and dramatically dragged herself up to the diary room to lodge an official complaint of 'sexual assault' against the "Evil Pervert"!! ...

If Jim does this if Jim does that give it a rest.

[smeagol]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..in the BB house, they're not 'friends', they've only been in there a few weeks...

they look friendly enough to me.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by smeagol

they look friendly enough to me.

..I'm just a bit confused by what you're saying, do you mean that if it's someone who has said that they're ok with someone doing it or that they know them so well that they're confident that person would be perfectly fine with it...saying that it's not as if it was Liz but ok with a 'type' of girl and that people would know that type of girl is a bit confusing as to what a 'type' is...