[Seraphim]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

He was just joking. If Casey had taken offense she would have told him.

Not necessarily, for the reasons I gave above.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Seraphim

Not necessarily, for the reasons I gave above.

We'll have to agree to disagree i'm afraid.

[Seraphim]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

We'll have to agree to disagree i'm afraid.

Of course

[jet]

Originally Posted by Seraphim

The reason this thread has generated so much controversy here and elsewhere is that Jim is taking Casey aside to offering comfort during vulnerable moments, then using that as an excuse to initiate physical contact and make graphically sexual remarks. She never reciprocates the banter, even though she participated in playful banter with Lee. At times she has looked uncomfortable with Jim's remarks.

Casey cannot really pull Jim up on his behaviour, because of her enormous gratitude for his support. Thus Jim has created a lot of good feeling from Casey, and she feels obliged to tolerate it. His grim expression when she didn't cite him as someone she'd snog or marry resulted in her adding that she'd have an affair with him - the only time she has ever indulged in any bantering comment.

When Jim told her to sit beside him the other night, she refused to do so twice before finally, reluctantly doing so. That kinda says to me that she didn't want to sit beside Jim. I wouldn't either.

I know all his fans say he is a product of his generation, but I have to disagree. I have never come across a man who spoke like that to a woman, unless it was part of playful banter, or he was involved in a physical relationship with her..

Brilliant post. I wonder how many would watch a man doing what Jim is doing with Casey to their own daughter and think it was funny and comforting for their offspring.
The amount of people who just don't seem to understand that it is entirely inappropriate is staggering and worrying.

[abhorson]

Casey " I would not mind an affair with Jim " Again just banter.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by abhorson

Casey " I would not mind an affair with Jim " Again just banter.

She's a woman, so she can say whatever she wants and NEVER be inppropriate. EVER.

[jet]

Originally Posted by abhorson

Casey " I would not mind an affair with Jim " Again just banter.

You still don't get it, do you?

As Seraphim said:

His grim expression when she didn't cite him as someone she'd snog or marry resulted in her adding that she'd have an affair with him - the only time she has ever indulged in any bantering comment.

I was thinking the exact same thing, and we can't be the only viewers not wearing rose tinted glasses.

[abhorson]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

She's a woman, so she can say whatever she wants and NEVER be inppropriate. EVER.

For certain people, agreed.

[Kazanne]

It's quite simple if you don't like the guy,fair enough don't vote for him,but those of us that do ,will not stop supporting him because some people are so offended by a joke that was aimed at cheering Casey up,some peoples minds are in the gutter so it seems.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

It's quite simple if you don't like the guy,fair enough don't vote for him,but those of us that do ,will not stop supporting him because some people are so offended by a joke that was aimed at cheering Casey up,some peoples minds are in the gutter so it seems.

I guess some people just don't get his sense of humour. But i think he's hilarious!

[abhorson]

I am sure Jims wife would find it funny and for what it was. BANTER.

[abhorson]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

It's quite simple if you don't like the guy,fair enough don't vote for him,but those of us that do ,will not stop supporting him because some people are so offended by a joke that was aimed at cheering Casey up,some peoples minds are in the gutter so it seems.

[abhorson]

Originally Posted by jet

You still don't get it, do you?

As Seraphim said:



I was thinking the exact same thing, and we can't be the only viewers not wearing rose tinted glasses.

I do get it, but i don't get your bitterness to someone you don't even know.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

It's quite simple if you don't like the guy,fair enough don't vote for him,but those of us that do ,will not stop supporting him because some people are so offended by a joke that was aimed at cheering Casey up,some peoples minds are in the gutter so it seems.

How ironic.

Jim's mind is the one in the gutter.

It isn't just one remark aimed at cheering her up though. It's a series of lewd remarks and always demanding she sit beside him in the guise of 'comforting her'. Either he's a father figure or he just plain wants into her knickers. The problem is mixing the two which most people don't seem to (or don't want to) understand.

[jet]

Originally Posted by abhorson

I do get it, but i don't get your bitterness to someone you don't even know.

I'm passing a few hours posting on a reality TV forum. When I go offline, Jim Davidson or CBB doesn't even enter my mind. Isn't it the same for most people?

[abhorson]

Originally Posted by jet

I'm passing a few hours posting on a reality TV forum. When I go offline, Jim Davidson or CBB doesn't even enter my mind. Isn't it the same for most people?

Yes, good to know.

So purely an anti Jim stance for the forum and for the craic, as we all do i might say.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

It's quite simple if you don't like the guy,fair enough don't vote for him,but those of us that do ,will not stop supporting him because some people are so offended by a joke that was aimed at cheering Casey up,some peoples minds are in the gutter so it seems.

..I think that you're right, if people want to support Jim, they're perfectly fine to do it, whether it be because they like his personality/his humour or the fact that he's been a huge part of the series and a good housemate..whatever their reasons are perfectly justified...and if people don't support Jim, their reasons are also justified, whether it be because they prefer another housemate/don't like his humour or his personality etc...and whether it was a joke or not or whether people felt it was appropriate or not, I think it's obvious to see from this thread/forum and other things on the internet that opinions are still very much split on Jim..but I think it's very unnecessary and wrong to infer that anyone's mind is 'in the gutter' for justifiable comments in feeling that his comment was inappropriate because that's how they genuinely feel (and I'm sure that some people's opinion are from a parent's point of view as well..)...the same way as it would be wrong to infer that a Jim supporter/fan must condone some of the things that he 'jokes' about....

[rionablue]

Originally Posted by jet

I'm passing a few hours posting on a reality TV forum. When I go offline, Jim Davidson or CBB doesn't even enter my mind. Isn't it the same for most people?

Jet I agree with all your views so never think you are on your own in here buddy

[jet]

Originally Posted by rionablue

Jet I agree with all your views so never think you are on your own in here buddy

Thank you.

[Northern Monkey]

There is a difference between a 'father' and 'father figure'.If Caseys actual father said it to her,Then that would be disturbing.A fellow peer in the BB house saying it as a joke,Not so much,Jim is NOT Caseys dad,He can have a joke with her if he wants and she with him.Get over it already.There are plenty of couples with age differences so it is'nt wrong to talk sexually as long as they are both of the age of consent and IT WAS A JOKE!

[Robodog]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

It's quite simple if you don't like the guy,fair enough don't vote for him,but those of us that do ,will not stop supporting him because some people are so offended by a joke that was aimed at cheering Casey up,some peoples minds are in the gutter so it seems.

Exactly.

It was an edgy joke, it was meant to cheer Casey up and it worked. She likes humour that's a bit edgy. So do millions of other people around the world. Edgy is good. It sells films, books, newspapers and tv shows. Including Big Brother.

That's the real joke here :

Big Brother is FAMOUS for being so full of edgy language and behaviour. Especially this year - sex talk galore, dappy's chappy, nipple licking, Lee and co behind the toilet door, the over 18s room and BOTS playing Lionel saying suck my d*** every episode etc etc

The whole program is edgy! - it's notorious for it - and it's edge is a BIG reason why people watch it, keep watching it and love it!

In the middle of all that swearing, finerbanging and nipple flashing - is anyone really surprised or genuinely shocked that a housemate has made an edgy JOKE ????

The show itself is a non-stop parade of edgy material full of sex talk, people getting naked, swearing and talking like they do on a drunk night out with their mates and is basically fantastic late night trash viewing -

So if you are likely to get offended by any of that which of course is gonna include the odd edgy JOKE now and then, or if you cannot accept it when other people enjoy a joke that you don't like - then maybe this is not the show for you?

It's Big Brother - not Gardener's world. What did you expect?

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by rionablue

Jet I agree with all your views so never think you are on your own in here buddy

I like Jet,just because we have opposing opinions on a housemate that wont change (for me anyway)he isn't alone,this is a game,we pick our faves,when its all over ,I'm sure Jet and I will still chat away nicely.

[anne666]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..I think that you're right, if people want to support Jim, they're perfectly fine to do it, whether it be because they like his personality/his humour or the fact that he's been a huge part of the series and a good housemate..whatever their reasons are perfectly justified...and if people don't support Jim, their reasons are also justified, whether it be because they prefer another housemate/don't like his humour or his personality etc...and whether it was a joke or not or whether people felt it was appropriate or not, I think it's obvious to see from this thread/forum and other things on the internet that opinions are still very much split on Jim..but I think it's very unnecessary and wrong to infer that anyone's mind is 'in the gutter' for justifiable comments in feeling that his comment was inappropriate because that's how they genuinely feel (and I'm sure that some people's opinion are from a parent's point of view as well..)...the same way as it would be wrong to infer that a Jim supporter/fan most condone some of the things that he 'jokes' about....

Well said!

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Robodog

Exactly.

It was an edgy joke, it was meant to cheer Casey up and it worked. She likes humour that's a bit edgy. So do millions of other people around the world. Edgy is good. It sells films, books, newspapers and tv shows. Including Big Brother.

That's the real joke here :

Big Brother is FAMOUS for being so full of edgy language and behaviour. Especially this year - sex talk galore, dappy's chappy, nipple licking, Lee and co behind the toilet door, the over 18s room and BOTS playing Lionel saying suck my d*** every episode etc etc

The whole program is edgy! - it's notorious for it - and it's edge is a BIG reason why people watch it, keep watching it and love it!

In the middle of all that swearing, finerbanging and nipple flashing - is anyone really surprised or genuinely shocked that a housemate has made an edgy JOKE ????

The show itself is a non-stop parade of edgy material full of sex talk, people getting naked, swearing and talking like they do on a drunk night out with their mates and is basically fantastic late night trash viewing -

So if you are likely to get offended by any of that which of course is gonna include the odd edgy JOKE now and then, or if you cannot accept it when other people enjoy a joke that you don't like - then maybe this is not the show for you?

It's Big Brother - not Gardener's world. What did you expect?

And of course there was that line from that old guy 'Suck my dick' aimed at Jasmine,but Lionels 82 so there,there

[Beso]

Originally Posted by jet

Brilliant post. I wonder how many would watch a man doing what Jim is doing with Casey to their own daughter and think it was funny and comforting for their offspring.
The amount of people who just don't seem to understand that it is entirely inappropriate is staggering and worrying.

If she was 29 like casey I wouldn't give a ****. Infact I'd piss myself laughing at her laughing.