[Me. I Am Salman]

Stop trying to be mysterious and clever

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

We are all Atheists

I don't believe in atheists.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Salman!

Stop trying to be mysterious and clever

It is true, there are hundreds of so called gods around the world and each religionist thinks his is real and does not believe in all the others

[Livia]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

There are exceptions but I am talking about big number in SOuth America and Africa.

I also very much doubt that educated people truly believe, I think you can enjoy the tradition and also weigh up the outcome of rejecting it and come to a happy medium of going along for the ride without buying the car, so to speak.

So because I have an education, I don't believe in God?

What you're effectively saying is that you know what's in my mind and my heart better than I do myself. Something a religious person wouldn't have the *******ing cheek to say to you, frankly. You don't believe... that's your right. I'm not going to say to you that you're lacking in any way. It would be nice if you extended the same courtesy to me.

[Me. I Am Salman]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

It is true, there are hundreds of so called gods around the world and each religionist thinks his is real and does not believe in all the others

The Abrahamic religions believe in the same God actually, there are just small differences when you look it at as a whole. The Abrahamic religions are also the largest, the most influential and the most elaborate. What does that imply

[Kate!]

and the lesson Kate has learned today is is.......

never start a thread even remotely connected with religion

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Livia

So because I have an education, I don't believe in God?

What you're effectively saying is that you know what's in my mind and my heart better than I do myself. Something a religious person wouldn't have the *******ing cheek to say to you, frankly. You don't believe... that's your right. I'm not going to say to you that you're lacking in any way. It would be nice if you extended the same courtesy to me.

Its my supposition and this is a forum but I dont intend to write a book, build a chapel/synagog and expect people to worship me regarding it. I also dont expect to open an LT viewpoint school nor enter politics (they did not like the school idea at the parents night so its a deffo no).

Oh and I will not be telling you that unless you hold my views you will burn in hell for eternity.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

If they chose not to see it as such then that is their prerogative but it is a superstition based on wishful thinking. There is no evidence to support any other likelihood.

There is no 'evidence' to say there is not something greater either

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Salman!

The Abrahamic religions believe in the same God actually, there are just small differences when you look it at as a whole. The Abrahamic religions are also the largest, the most influential and the most elaborate. What does that imply

nothing, just that people sought answers for questions they could not answer so they made them up in a simplistic framework that also helped to control populations and keep them from wholesale murder.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

There is no 'evidence' to say there is not something greater either

yes like Leprechauns

[Me. I Am Salman]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

nothing, just that people sought answers for questions they could not answer so they made them up in a simplistic framework that also helped to control populations and keep them from wholesale murder.

Well you seem to completely have ignored my post on the other page which explains why I find it very hard to believe someone could have made it all up, especially just to control people as well

[Me. I Am Salman]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

yes like Leprechauns

not even a remotely similar concept, and a really cliche and unoriginal thing to say

[Jordan.]

LeatherTrumpet snatching all these god botherers

[Black Dagger]

I am going to give up drinking tea, and it's going to be torture.

[Black Dagger]

I'll probably last an hour and forget all about it tbh

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Salman!

Well you seem to completely have ignored my post on the other page which explains why I find it very hard to believe someone could have made it all up, especially just to control people as well

"I believe in the Qur'an because it's just so amazingly and intricately written, addresses so much about the nature of life, explains science including things which were not discovered at the time. When I read it I really can't comprehend there being no truth to it, it's just too elaborate to be written by man. The Bible and Torah(?) are vastly similar as all it really is is a different interpretation of the same belief"

"explains science including things which were not discovered at the time."

perhaps you could elaborate here?

[Lee.]

I won't be giving up anything as I am an atheist..

Is giving something up for Lent a catholic practice? Or do Protestants do it too?

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

yes like Leprechauns

Sorry,but you are being rather pig headed in trying to make people feel inferior for believing in a God,you don't have the answers,none of us do,I don't see fresh air but I know it's there,not everything we cant see should be dismissed,you believe in nothing,fine,but let people who believe ,do so without the contstant put downs.

[Josy]

Mocking someone else's beliefs is ignorant, arrogant, inconsiderate and just downright rude.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Sorry,but you are being rather pig headed in trying to make people feel inferior for believing in a God,you don't have the answers,none of us do,I don't see fresh air but I know it's there,not everything we cant see should be dismissed,you believe in nothing,fine,but let people who believe ,do so without the contstant put downs.

No its just an example of using the "you cant prove he does not exist argument"

as in you cant prove an infinite amount of things dont exist and one does not need to.

And there is concrete peer reviewed evidence for "air"

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Josy

Mocking someone else's beliefs is ignorant, arrogant, inconsiderate and just downright rude.

No one is mocking anyone but increasingly when you discuss religion, religionists willl bunker down and play the victim card.

[Me. I Am Salman]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

"I believe in the Qur'an because it's just so amazingly and intricately written, addresses so much about the nature of life, explains science including things which were not discovered at the time. When I read it I really can't comprehend there being no truth to it, it's just too elaborate to be written by man. The Bible and Torah(?) are vastly similar as all it really is is a different interpretation of the same belief"

"explains science including things which were not discovered at the time."

perhaps you could elaborate here?

well, it discussed the expansion of the universe for example. just search on google for prophecies fulfilled by the Qur'an/miracles of the Qur'an. there's a load of examples and explained better than I ever could. I'm not saying these fulfilled predictions are the only reason why I believe in it, that's just one factor

[Josy]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

No one is mocking anyone but increasingly when you discuss religion, religionists willl bunker down and play the victim card.

I see a few posts in this threads that basically insult anyone who practices any religion, so yes there is mocking or perhaps trolling is a better word, going on.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Josy

I see a few posts in this threads that basically insult anyone who practices any religion, so yes there is mocking or perhaps trolling is a better word, going on.

I would welcome an example of your own personal opinion of a debate you have not been involved in?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Salman!

well, it discussed the expansion of the universe for example. just search on google for prophecies fulfilled by the Qur'an/miracles of the Qur'an. there's a load of examples and explained better than I ever could. I'm not saying these fulfilled predictions are the only reason why I believe in it, that's just one factor

Every religion has a list of so called fullfilled prophecies as its part of the shtick. To date none have ever cut the mustard, unless you have a specific one that you can illustrate?