[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...Whenever I'm wrong just show me the bill and I'll pay it ...

...so will that mean a knighthood..?...

More than likely,sadly too.

[Kazanne]

As I see it it,it wasn't JUST Gary Barlow though was it,so why the hate just for him?

Originally Posted by Kazanne

As I see it it,it wasn't JUST Gary Barlow though was it,so why the hate just for him?

He has the most punchable face?

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

As I see it it,it wasn't JUST Gary Barlow though was it,so why the hate just for him?

I don't hate him Kazanne, he is though the only one with an OBE I think, so we could and should be able to come to expect he would try to avoid any tax avoidance schemes or scams.

The sad thing is until such schemes and scams are made a criminal offence, ( as benefit fraud and claiming what shouldn't be is),then those with the means and wealth will continue to in effect rob the British Nation as to tax due from them.

[Ammi]

....hmmm, yeah he did get found out though Joey so he will have to repay it and that amount of money wouldn't come easy for anyone...maybe instead of suggesting he return his OBE, we should be concentrating on all of those little monkeys who haven't been found out yet/are still doing it.....

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Jesus.

He has the most punchable face?

lol,I quite like him

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I don't hate him Kazanne, he is though the only one with an OBE I think, so we could and should be able to come to expect he would try to avoid any tax avoidance schemes or scams.

The sad thing is until such schemes and scams are made a criminal offence, ( as benefit fraud and claiming what shouldn't be is),then those with the means and wealth will continue to in effect rob the British Nation as to tax due from them.

I DO understand that Joey,but it just seems to be aimed at him for some reason,two other members were also said to have done it,but only Garys name seems to have been used in the story,just seems unfair imo,and I'll wager there's loads more.As for the OBE,I think loads of people have them who are not worthy.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Ammi

....hmmm, yeah he did get found out though Joey so he will have to repay it and that amount of money wouldn't come easy for anyone...maybe instead of suggesting he return his OBE, we should be concentrating on all of those little monkeys who haven't been found out yet/are still doing it.....

I 100% agree with you as to that and I wish more was being done as to that too.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

I DO understand that Joey,but it just seems to be aimed at him for some reason,two other members were also said to have done it,but only Garys name seems to have been used in the story,just seems unfair imo,and I'll wager there's loads more.As for the OBE,I think loads of people have them who are not worthy.

It is Mark Owen and Howard Donald from Take That too apparantly along with Gary.

I am only 22 and already in life despair at some of the people who get OBE's and other awards,even worse some who get Sir and Dame.

You would easily win your wager Kazanne as to there being loads more too, sadly they get liittle done as to weeding them out and getting due funding paid by them to their Country.

[Ammi]

..wasn't he one of one hundred celebrities or they were three of one hundred..?..yeah, I don't see the direction at them, who are the other ninety seven....

[Crimson Dynamo]

Take That

no, give it back you greedy fecker

[smudgie]

Don't see any need to strip him of hs OBE.
He earned it, not just for the work we know about but for all his charitable work he does not mention.
I think this "Icebreaker" company should be looked into, if it is operating under false pretenses then perhaps it is time something was done about it.
I wonder if indeed some of the money does go to help aspiring artists.
It appears a very fine line between tax avoidance and tax evasion, would be an idea to make people pay it all back with interest..maybe 10/15 %.
I would also like to know how much Gary Barlow HAS paid in tax as well as the amount he has not.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Take That

no, give it back you greedy fecker

Absolutely, also if people are to be given decoration as recognition for whatever they are and do and therefore be near heralded as examples to everyone else, then they should lose such decoration if they fall well short.
In effect robbing the Country of due tax on your wealth and money earned,for me at any rate, falls well short of actually being any example to anyone.

[arista]

Gary Barlow's Twitter account hacked and offensive message posted about his stillborn child amid tax dodge backlash

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz31b2Ytyve



What a Mess GAZ

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by arista

Gary Barlow's Twitter account hacked and offensive message posted about his stillborn child amid tax dodge backlash

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz31b2Ytyve



What a Mess GAZ

Thats ****ing disgusting. Seriously disgusting.

So...Jason Orange is the only one whos paying his taxes? Good on him

Also I disagree that Barlow should be stripped of his OBE. Pay back what he owes, yes. Be treat the same as anyone else caught doing the same/equivalant in 'normal wages' scams (not that it will happen), yes. But stripping him of awards and stuff, no.

[Me. I Am Salman]

strip him of his OBE
all these rich ****ers are so greedy it's unreal

[Kizzy]

It's a bit of a double standard though if people have had honours rescinded previously.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Salman!

strip him of his OBE
all these rich ****ers are so greedy it's unreal

I think his OBE should definaitely go,in fact in his place I would have handed it back anyway after this.

Obviously his awards from the world of music,by all means keep them but nothing as to decoration from the State.

It isn't just more greed as to this scheme either that he got involved in with his wealth, there was also deceit as to creating losses that never existed in the scheme as a scam.

[Kizzy]

Ok I love lily again now.....

chart-topping Sheezus singer, 29, added: “Can't get through to NHSDirect, no midwives in your area ? Well at least the Queen got a nice birthday party/jubilee , whatever @GaryBarlow.

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[arista]

Originally Posted by Salman!

strip him of his OBE
all these rich ****ers are so greedy it's unreal

Never
he got that for the Charity work.



he had a bad adviser


Get Over it

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by arista

Never
he got that for the Charity work.



he had a bad adviser


Get Over it

It slightly irritates me when I hear in the media for instance the defence that celebrities got bad advice, that may certainly be so in their early careers but this was done in 2010.

Gary Barlow clearly knew how to make a fortune and to that point hold on nicely to it as well, he clearly was eager to take this 'advice' and put a massive amount into it.

I would think the royalties celebrities get from increased sales of their records after doing charity events are more than enough reward for supporting the charity without having to get a decoration from the State too.

Sorry but I hold no sympathy for him at all on this,he is a clever and tuned in individual who I doubt would take any advice lightly anyway,especially over money.
I for one don't look at him with any respect after this,he should get the money paid back and be paying all his due taxes to the UK and he could also stop presenting himself as this so called pillar of society too.

I'd be saying this about anyones else involved in any tax avoidance just as I would for any benefit cheat too.

[InOne]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-27364089

Surprise surprise

[Marsh.]

[InOne]

JK Rowling on paying taxes:

I chose to remain a domiciled taxpayer for a couple of reasons. The main one was that I wanted my children to grow up where I grew up, to have proper roots in a culture as old and magnificent as Britain’s; to be citizens, with everything that implies, of a real country, not free-floating ex-pats, living in the limbo of some tax haven and associating only with the children of similarly greedy tax exiles.

A second reason, however, was that I am indebted to the British welfare state; the very one that Mr Cameron would like to replace with charity handouts. When my life hit rock bottom, that safety net, threadbare though it had become under John Major’s Government, was there to break the fall. I cannot help feeling, therefore, that it would have been contemptible to scarper for the West Indies at the first sniff of a seven-figure royalty cheque. This, if you like, is my notion of patriotism. On the available evidence, I suspect that it is Lord Ashcroft’s idea of being a mug.

[Princess]

I am clearly not known for being unbias when it comes to matters to do with Take That. But the way people are treating Gary is vile. Especially when it wasn't just him. Yes he did a bad thing but he isn't the devil incarnate and he isn't to blame for all the world's problems.

He got finincally advised to do something and he did, Jason Orange has a different accountant to rest of them because his brother is one. How is anyone to know what went on? That Gary was sat there rubbing his hands together going 'I'll be minted', a decision was made and we don't know how much direct involvement they had in, maybe they trusted the wrong people.

I saw that tweet that was mentioned on the Mail, it made me sick to my stomach, no one deserves to be treated that way. It's horrid the way people are revelling in being cruel to someone, especially someone who has done so much good in his time.



Yes, what Gary(and Howard and Mark) did was wrong but people need to calm down about it, it's gone too far. And no he shouldn't be stripped off his OBE, he got it for good reason and that's not changed because he made a mistake.