[smeagol]

think they said on the right stuff today soemthing about one police district srresting 1200 people over internet probs. thats a lot i wonder what the whole country stats are.
so i guess they do regardless of whatever we think anyway. in this case i think its justified. but i bet 1.990 of those others are pointless and wrong

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

it,s certainly NOT folklore for the people involved.

I think you missed my point; of course it isn't for the people involved. It's horrific. It's incomprehensible. It shouldn't be (tabloid) folklore, for anyone, but it is, along with so many other horrific stories. And that is what leads to the sort of empathic disconnect that allows / creates these sorts of internet trolls.

The gutter press has a way of turning things that are simply unimaginably awful into a form of entertainment used to sell their rags and ad space. And we wonder why society creates idiots and monsters? Because society is idiotic and monstrous.

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Actually I would agree with you totally with that Cherie.

I don't think anyone would disagree with that, I just don't really believe that it DOES make "idiots think twice". In fact, the increased coverage just ensures that there will be another idiot, another day.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I don't think anyone would disagree with that, I just don't really believe that it DOES make "idiots think twice". In fact, the increased coverage just ensures that there will be another idiot, another day.

Trolls whilst enjoying a reaction are also quite partial to being anonymous, this guys life will never be the same again.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

How do you know it's not capable of policing itself? You're making judgements from fringe incidents and the worst possible scenarios like they are common occurrences. The Media highlights stories like this to make them seem more common than they actually are. These trolls blow hot air on the internet because they can but ultimately that's all it is.

I play a game called League of Legends and it's an online game where you are put into teams with other players and it's the most toxic game I've ever played. It's rare to find a game where there isn't at least one person spouting venom at the rest of their team or at the enemy. Over my time playing that game I've been told to die of cancer, that I should be raped and have my throat slit afterwards and that the same thing should happen to any kids I may have, tonnes of really awful stuff. Would I ever consider going to the police over any of it? No because that's a waste of time and every one of these players was easily dealt with by muting them and reporting them after the game.

Online abuse can only affect you if you let it. Of course issues of Cyber Bullying can be different since it's more often than not related to real life, Cyber Bullies are often people you know in real life.

If it was why are there calls for regulation, it would simply introduce strategies to combat abuse without the need for intervention?
Whatever game you play that is not relevant here is's like saying you were in a boxing match and someone hit you isn't it? not the same as being punched by a stranger as you go about your business.
It's quite blase to suggest that there is a choice to be made whether or not an incident impacts on your life or not, having been a victim of a troll I can say it's not always handled satisfactorily imo.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I don't think anyone would disagree with that, I just don't really believe that it DOES make "idiots think twice". In fact, the increased coverage just ensures that there will be another idiot, another day.

I disagree they thrive on the anonymity that is their only power... remove that and they are powerless.

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Trolls whilst enjoying a reaction are also quite partial to being anonymous, this guys life will never be the same again.

Originally Posted by Kizzy

I disagree they thrive on the anonymity that is their only power... remove that and they are powerless.

That may once have been true but the evidence would suggest that it's no longer the case... some of the worst (if not THE worst) trolling and cyberbullying these days is out there, very openly, on platforms such as Facebook and Twitter, with personal details (full names, ages, pictures, locations, even details of places of education or employment) available for all to see. I don't think anonymity is hugely important to many "net nasties" these days.

Whilst perceived anonymity may have played a role in this specific example, that in no way contradicts what I was saying. The fact that this has, for want of a better term, "gone viral" online and in the press will only encourage more trolling. It will not hinder future trolls.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

it,s certainly NOT folklore for the people involved.

I really feel for the Mother of James Kazanne, we have debated this issue a lot on tibb since I joined and I still am sickened and get angry at the way that little lad had his life taken from him.

What his parents and his Mother particularly has been put through dealing with the issues of parole and new identities for the animals that tortured James and then killed him, must be really traumatic.

I think anyone setting out to in any way cause any further distress and to even be raking it up again, especially the way this sick individual did,warrants having the book thrown at him.