[Claymores]

I am not a raging Braveheart nationalist, it just seems the lesser of two evils from David Cameron's Britain. I found it bluddy awful that UKIP were even in the frame for a Parliamentary seat.

I distrust Scotland's First Minister a lot - at Uni in the 80s, my flatmate was the organiser of the SNP student body, he'd organise things I'd attend. So I've sat down manys a time with Alex to chew the fat. He is unconvincing.

As a socialist, I can only vote for what I believe in. More Dave the rave Cameron is not what I want, but what I will get.

I think the independence vote will fail, and I think as a consequence that Scotland fall back to being a backwater where Cameron can impose London-centric thinking upon an essentially socialist country.

[LeatherTrumpet]

yes Claymores

we want our own numpties running things up here

[Claymores]

Read carefully what I said LT - lesser of two evils thingy

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Claymores

Read carefully what I said LT - lesser of two evils thingy

yes but a yes vote is what counts

[Claymores]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

yes but a yes vote is what counts

I have little belief in the tartan hoochter-teuchter SNP which is Samond's background and why I used to go to my flatmate's meetings and take the pee out of them. My forward thinking is that IF we could squeek a YES vote, we'd rid ourselves of Cameron then can concentrate on putting sensible peeps in place.

[arista]

"vote YES to Arista's Scottish republic"


Yes Set Scotland Free
Let them run their own Nation.

[Claymores]

Originally Posted by arista

"vote YES to Arista's Scottish republic"


Yes Set Scotland Free
Let them run their own Nation.

Free us from that twonk Cameron

[Claymores]

Originally Posted by arista

"vote YES to Arista's Scottish republic"


Yes Set Scotland Free
Let them run their own Nation.

Just out of interest A - why do you even care what the jocks do?

[arista]

Originally Posted by Claymores

Just out of interest A - why do you even care what the jocks do?

Import /Export

[Claymores]

I regard a "NO" vote as being an endorsement of the UK government and I'm sure the Tories will take licence and run riot with it on the backwater of Scotland where they get about 5 votes total anyway. (Remember Thatcher imposing poll tax as a 'fun' experiment)! I was gonna abstain as the SNP are half-baked/clueless but better than Cameron's Britain.

I respect anyone who can't take the final gulp to move from abstain to YES......there are clowns at Holyrood just now

[arista]

Free Scotland


Is Positive

[Claymores]

Originally Posted by arista

Free Scotland


Is Positive

Word up - putting my hatred of the Engerlish hat on................the United Kingdom of England and Wales with a bit of Eire stolen for historic reasons

[Nedusa]

Why would any scotsperson living in Scotland NOT vote yes to Independence ?

A complete No brainer, why would any sane person vote to continue to be subjugated or ruled by a foreign country especially as they have been ruled by this country for over 300 years.

Why is there even a debate, surely it is a foregone conclusion.

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Nedusa

Why would any scotsperson living in Scotland NOT vote yes to Independence ?

A complete No brainer, why would any sane person vote to continue to be subjugated or ruled by a foreign country especially as they have been ruled by this country for over 300 years.

Low national self-esteem / lack of self belief (the entire no campaign hinges on telling Scottish people that they're too incompetent to be independent and doomed if they try), institutionalization, and that old human folly - fear of the unknown.

It all boils down to:

"Maybe we can do it, maybe things will be much better, BUT WHAT IF WE CAN'T? WHAT IF THEY'RE WORSE?? Things are more or less sort of OK at the moment so best just keep things as they are "