[user104658]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I agree as to Steven, I would avoid him like the plague in there but Helen I could oddly enough find myself talking to, although I would likely often be telling to bite her toungue before she speaks.

Sorry however, as to Ashleigh, only speaking for myself, I see no redeeming qualities as to her as a housemate or person from what I have seen.
Her talking so badly behind peoples backs, not having the courage to say it to their faces and her near constant miserable face and whining make her a truly rotten housemate to me and her actions are as vile.
She is unforgiving, self centred,a liar and a cowardly 2 faced backstabber, nothing nice about her at all in my view and little in the way of entertaining either.

One suspects you might have a bit of a "thing" for Helen, Mr Steele... This is a complete over reaction when it comes to Ashleigh. I'm not a "fan" by any means (of any of them, they're simply a bad batch) but she's just a slightly whiney teenager. Fairly typical 18 year old girl, to be honest. Basically, she's completely harmless.

You've taken against her quite strongly though and this quoted description is downright hyperbolic... I can ONLY put it down to her being seen as the "anti-helen" and that you feel... Defensive of her? Which I don't really get at all. I'd say you must be thinking with Little Joey, but, ... It's HELEN. Surely not? ... SURELY not?

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

One suspects you might have a bit of a "thing" for Helen, Mr Steele... This is a complete over reaction when it comes to Ashleigh. I'm not a "fan" by any means (of any of them, they're simply a bad batch) but she's just a slightly whiney teenager. Fairly typical 18 year old girl, to be honest. Basically, she's completely harmless.

You've taken against her quite strongly though and this quoted description is downright hyperbolic... I can ONLY put it down to her being seen as the "anti-helen" and that you feel... Defensive of her? Which I don't really get at all. I'd say you must be thinking with Little Joey, but, ... It's HELEN. Surely not? ... SURELY not?

No way,I consider Helen to be have been pretty bad too but at least in the main people know what she thinks as to them by what she mostly says to her faces as well as behind their backs.
Ashleigh's actions have only been exposed to the others by BB and the relaying of what she has said so they could hear her,otherwise most would be still in ignorance as to what she has said and even thinks about them.

Neither Helen or Ashleigh would be people I would like to be around really,however I try to and usually judge people on who I could maybe trust and how much.
For me,from what I have seen, I wouldn't trust Ashleigh ever but Helen I could in small to medium way.

Therein lies the big difference between the 2 for me.