[Jake.]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

You are the one following my posts and as soon as I mention another housemate here you are being a mini mod,I'm not playing your silly games,I will post when and where I see fit.so bye

Following your posts? Oh dear, I think you're a bit paranoid. Fact is, you made a snide remark in here for no reason whatsoever than to start the whole thing up again. If I wish for only the thread topic to be discussed in my own thread then I don't see why you have an issue.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Jake.

Following your posts? Oh dear, I think you're a bit paranoid. Fact is, you made a snide remark in here for no reason whatsoever than to start the whole thing up again. If I wish for only the thread topic to be discussed in my own thread then I don't see why you have an issue.

ok

[Jake.]

Good to see you've read it all through

[abhorson]

Originally Posted by iiamlukee

tbf she says she didnt say it but she is always drunk

She did say it though

[susie q]

Originally Posted by karezza

Helen's tears are the only genuine tears.

They maybe genuine, tears of self pity generally are, shes been rumbled for the hypocrite that she is, thats why shes crying. Not even that bothered about Steven.

[Babschap]

Originally Posted by iiamlukee

love how you support the biggest trash in the house (Helen) and you call ashleigh trash where ashleigh has more class then the ugly troll who sleeps with men for money

Well said! Cannot believe people choose to defend Helen who is a guttersnipe.
Once she was exposed ... Out come the tears, silly *****

[abhorson]

Originally Posted by Babschap

Well said! Cannot believe people choose to defend Helen who is a guttersnipe.
Once she was exposed ... Out come the tears, silly *****

Sleeping with Shreck knowing full well about Coleen after the granny incident. For the papers!!

You could never like someone like that. Well, i could not.

[Sophiee]

I thought this was going to help to 'redeem' helen tonight but seemingly not, it just made her look like a liar

[Pincho Paxton]

Helen hates bitching behind people's backs, so to find out that she does it made her horrified. She has always thought of herself as above everyone else, but was shocked to find out that she is the person that she hates. To see the harm that you do to others is called empathy. Helen has never used the empathy mirror. BB made her look in the mirror, it made her cry.

[Vicky.]

I liked how they only showed flashbacks to what helen had said and not the others...really they should have shown her bitching either in the DR when she was denying it, or on the main screen in the house

[Pincho Paxton]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I liked how they only showed flashbacks to what helen had said and not the others...really they should have shown her bitching either in the DR when she was denying it, or on the main screen in the house

I think that they should show it.

[Northern Monkey]

Yep,Miss "i tell it to their face" getting shown to be just as bitchy as everyone else.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Jake.

Read the rest of the thread, I said that if people wish to make it into a Helen vs Ashleigh topic then suitable threads are available.

If people wish to make a comparison then what's the problem? stop policing the thread jake.
I think helen and ashleigh are very similar people in essence and they are both feeling the pressure this week.

[AarynGriesfan]

It's about time BB called out Helen for all the **** talking she did. After what they did to Ashleigh it's certainly more than fair. Wish they would have went a little further though and showed everyone the video clips of it.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Pincho Paxton

Helen hates bitching behind people's backs, so to find out that she does it made her horrified. She has always thought of herself as above everyone else, but was shocked to find out that she is the person that she hates. To see the harm that you do to others is called empathy. Helen has never used the empathy mirror. BB made her look in the mirror, it made her cry.

..that's not quite true, she only felt any remorse for Steven because she bitched about 'her own' ..showing or feeling any empathy/compassion would also encompass people she liked less but would be able to see things from their viewpoint and she herself said that she could care less about the others ..well, because of her behaviour in the house, they also could care less about her, maybe..?..when they discuss her but then she is horrified and condemns them...Helen's problem, her main problem is her complete lack of empathy and yet, in her life and her feeling of 'unfairness' in it all, she expects so much empathy herself...


..having said that though, I did feel some sympathy with her, whether misplaced or not ..and sorry Jake, I am going to draw a comparison with Ashleigh..in that most tears are real in my opinion and most remorse is real in the house, that's how I feel so I wouldn't be heartless about how Helen reacted to what BB showed her but when Ashleigh felt emotional after having to choose Ash for eviction of their three choices and really hadn't wanted to..some Ashleigh 'haters' could not accept the reality of those tears which to me were very sincere so it gets tedious as an Ashleigh supporter, that 'double standards' are more often thrown at them....not by you btw, just in general...

[Marc]

I can't wait to watch this

[cheapbbfan]

What I didn't like that she flat out lied and used her crying and hysterics to distract from that instead of owning it