[mrflibble]

Reasons why it's failed:
1. Helen
2. Too many twists and manipulations that make no sense

[Mystic Mock]

Having twist after twist after twist after twist doesn't help, and a lot of the decent Housemates going earlier on.

[duclos]

I've loved it

[JTM45]

I'd say it's definitely failed!
BB has been pretty un-remarkable since C5 have been butchering it but this Series has just been such an all-time low, a total flop!!!!
I've never been less excited about a BB series while it's still running.

There's quite a few reasons but as far as i'm concerned the most notable are;

Apart from 3 or 4 great housemates the rest were awful, awful choices!

Giving someone a pass straight to the final withing 24 hours of them entering the house! Terrible decision, and a blatant and ridiculous manipulation! I have absolutely NO DOUBT that the pass was invented for Helen and there was never a chance of anyone other than her getting the pass! Ridiculous in the extreme!

It's not a new one but this year has been particularly bad for betraying housemates private conversations in the DR or playing back/relaying housemates conversations within the house. Just a cheap way to create drama because they're incapable of creating drama through good production of the show!

And another not new thing but one that's been awful this year is the favouring of certain housemates over others and vice-versa (giving certain housemates negative edits in an attempt to damage their popularity within the house and with the public resulting in them either being nominated or evicted, depending on the timing!).

Incredibly poor and forgettable tasks! Back in the day the Tasks were amazing but since C5 have had the show they just put no effort into them whatsoever! Shameful, really!!!!

There's many more things i could mention but those i've listed have been the real Series Killers for me. If it carries on like this i can see C5 dropping it and i don't know if anyone else will pick it up sadly!

[BigBrotherfan4ever]

I've not liked this series much at all, & I think it's down to the HM's that were pick for this series, don't find many of them very likeable, so much so can't wait to this series is over, & CBB starts.

[abhorson]

BB need to stir it up again. Too much loving and civility going on.

[karezza]

1. Giving Helen a final pass.
2. Selecting Ashleigh & Chris as housemates.

[Beastie]

Helen being given a pass. I know she has been entertainment but it would have been more of a "fun house" if she went in the first week.

No pass should be given next year.

[JTM45]

Originally Posted by karezza

2. Selection Ashleigh & Chris as housemates.

So you think two of this year's best, most intelligent, most interesting and most Loved Housemates were bad choices yet you don't mention Tamara, Toya or Kimberly, three of the worst housemates in years who could have been replaced by three filleted cod and the difference probably wouldn't have been noticed!
Actually Toya's cod stand-in would have been rumbled because people would have wondered how her skin was looking so great all of a sudden!

I guess we just have to laugh and count our blessings that you weren't choosing the housemates this year! :

[jegmeister]

Well I have now given up watching the highlights shows during the week and only read this Forum and watch the eviction show. And that is a first for me in about 6 years.

The biggest problem has been the messing with nominations and lack of consistency. Even if there were friends and family or other methods of nomination (face to face), the actual final vote to evict has always rested with the public - until this series. Being given a free pass to the final is unquestionably the worst decision that the producers made. Even if it hadn't been someone as horrible as Helen that was chosen, the principle is just plain wrong.

And then twice in row the rule was broken again - the vote that the newbies had to vote out any housemate was beyond ridiculous. If they had chosen a fan's favourite, there would have been forum and twitter meltdown. We should always have the final power to vote out, no exceptions.

And then there is the lack of consistency. If you are going to show private diary room convos (and I have a lot of misgivings about it), you MUST be even handed. But this year BB has been anything but. Helen has got off incredibly lightly whereas Ashleigh has been constantly targeted. Very unfair.

And one other thing that pi**es me off. We always hear the likes of Rylan sneering "BB can change the rules at any time" - let's see how he would have liked it if in his series he was chosen to go by newbies and not the public. There have to be some basic rules - otherwise, why not just choose the winner on the first day.

If next year's BB is the same as this year, I won't watch it again either - it's simply too annoying and frustrating.

[Northern Monkey]

I think it's just all the BB manipulation to be honest.Twists to keep certain house mates in or evict others instead of just letting things play out.This series has totally stopped me voting as the producers can just edit peoples weeks how they want to get people evicted.No live feed means they can literally control everything we see.I mean Helen getting 15 warnings and still in there is ridiculous,People used to be kicked out with much less.Unfortunatley the show has gradually turned from being a gameshow/social experiment into this TOWIEesque scripted drama show we have now.The public are being spoonfed stories that C5 want to create.Also the days of the average joe off the street going in are long gone,Now we get these people who either have connections to other reality TV contestants or are on the cusp of some kind of minor fame already.I think this is why people don't bother with the show anymore,It's all too contrived.

[mizzmee]

Originally Posted by EyeballPaul

I think it's just all the BB manipulation to be honest.Twists to keep certain house mates in or evict others instead of just letting things play out.This series has totally stopped me voting as the producers can just edit peoples weeks how they want to get people evicted.No live feed means they can literally control everything we see.I mean Helen getting 15 warnings and still in there is ridiculous,People used to be kicked out with much less.Unfortunatley the show has gradually turned from being a gameshow/social experiment into this TOWIEesque scripted drama show we have now.The public are being spoonfed stories that C5 want to create.Also the days of the average joe off the street going in are long gone,Now we get these people who either have connections to other reality TV contestants or are on the cusp of some kind of minor fame already.I think this is why people don't bother with the show anymore,It's all too contrived.

I agree 100%. Clearly they want Helen to be the big star out of this, its the only reason they keep Ash safe. I will say there has been entertainment but it is unbalanced and unfair. This would not be an issue IF the show did not involve people spending their money to vote.
When the public are involved they deserve to see and know the truth and deserve to have their voice heard.

[waterhog]

Originally Posted by Who Is She?

...Compared to January's Celebrity Big Brother success and last summer's 'Secrets and Lies' success, why has Power Trip failed? They did everything they could, did a new theme, got a beautiful house and diary room, so why has this series failed? Ultimately housemates, lack of live feed, or is the theme not very good?

don't no what you are watching - this series has been fantastic.

[Jay.]

I've actually quite liked it. It's obvious, at least to me, that they've tried something different this year, but for some that wasn't enough. They've made the series a lot more like a game show, like Helen's pass to the final, Mark winning Ł5000 and the whole power aspect. I think it's a really original idea and it's the first time that it's been an actual 'game show'. But obviously some people don't see that. I don't think that the housemates have been that bad either, for the first time in a channel 5 big brother there's not one single housemate that I dislike and I don't mind who wins really, compared to the previous ones where I couldn't care less (excluding bb14 - Gina & Dexter)

I'm a fan of the twists too, it's only a tv show and some people get too wound up in all of it. I don't complain about it much, because to me it has been quite entertaining. Sure there have been parts where I've been half-watching it, but that's happened to me with every big brother, sometimes it can be boring.

So yeah, I don't think it's failed, the ratings are only down a little bit, but that's not what the producers really care about, because it's more about the demographic etc. and there is not need to compare it to previous series because they've tried to do something original with the format and I think it's really paid off, I've liked it and from what I've read from this thread, not many people here think it's failed either.

[joeysteele]

For me at best an only 'fair' set of housemates, not enough variation as to them and also the lack of continuity and freedom enough to develop storylines or get to see the real people they maybe are.

The worst thing however that has really destroyed this series from the outset,is the interference of BB and manipulation of noms and evictions by them.
The power trip has bene done to overkill, so much it has stifled any flow or relevance to the housemates and the series.

For me this is the worst series ever of BB and one I have watched only casually for the last 2 weeks now,I also have yet to finish a full show of bbbots and I was one who not only watched the original highlights of previous BB series but also avidly watched repeats of them too.
This series, I simply cannot wait to see the back of and in the main near all the housemates that were in it too.

BB really need to buck their ideas up next time and also restore the noms process too, at least to more of what they used to be.
Or,for me, I likely wouldn't watch another series with the interference and the tried manipulation of results from BB that this one has had.

[Achilles]

Big Brother: Secrets and Lies
Big Brother: Power Trip

How about for next year, we have

Big Brother: Old School

Normal people, live feed and all the rest.

There is more chance of BB ratings increasing by returning to a proven format that appeals to the general public. The reason the ratings have steadily declined over the past decade is because the housemates have become more and more outrageous and cartoon like. The majority of viewers were hooked on the Old School BBs because NORMAL PEOPLE ARE MORE INTERESTING, they are 3-D human beings and not 2-D cartoon characters.

They can try another gimmick next season, but with no live feed and cartoon characters instead of normal people, they will just get the same old flat ratings. No amount of twists and turns and showmance bollocks can change that. The only thing to improve ratings is by changing the format back to the original format, the successful format.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Achilles

Big Brother: Secrets and Lies
Big Brother: Power Trip

How about for next year, we have

Big Brother: Old School

Normal people, live feed and all the rest.

There is more chance of BB ratings increasing by returning to a proven format that appeals to the general public. The reason the ratings have steadily declined over the past decade is because the housemates have become more and more outrageous and cartoon like. The majority of viewers were hooked on the Old School BBs because NORMAL PEOPLE ARE MORE INTERESTING, they are 3-D human beings and not 2-D cartoon characters.


They can try another gimmick next season, but with no live feed and cartoon characters instead of normal people, they will just get the same old flat ratings. No amount of twists and turns and showmance bollocks can change that. The only thing to improve ratings is by changing the format back to the original format, the successful format.

I would love to see that too Achilles, I agree totally with all you say.

[BigBrotherfan4ever]

Originally Posted by Achilles

Big Brother: Secrets and Lies
Big Brother: Power Trip

How about for next year, we have

Big Brother: Old School

Normal people, live feed and all the rest.

There is more chance of BB ratings increasing by returning to a proven format that appeals to the general public. The reason the ratings have steadily declined over the past decade is because the housemates have become more and more outrageous and cartoon like. The majority of viewers were hooked on the Old School BBs because NORMAL PEOPLE ARE MORE INTERESTING, they are 3-D human beings and not 2-D cartoon characters.

They can try another gimmick next season, but with no live feed and cartoon characters instead of normal people, they will just get the same old flat ratings. No amount of twists and turns and showmance bollocks can change that. The only thing to improve ratings is by changing the format back to the original format, the successful format.

this sounds great, would love a series like this again

[kelty]

Originally Posted by Achilles

Big Brother: Secrets and Lies
Big Brother: Power Trip

How about for next year, we have

Big Brother: Old School

Normal people, live feed and all the rest.

There is more chance of BB ratings increasing by returning to a proven format that appeals to the general public. The reason the ratings have steadily declined over the past decade is because the housemates have become more and more outrageous and cartoon like. The majority of viewers were hooked on the Old School BBs because NORMAL PEOPLE ARE MORE INTERESTING, they are 3-D human beings and not 2-D cartoon characters.

They can try another gimmick next season, but with no live feed and cartoon characters instead of normal people, they will just get the same old flat ratings. No amount of twists and turns and showmance bollocks can change that. The only thing to improve ratings is by changing the format back to the original format, the successful format.

how i would love to see a return of the old BB with normal people

[Pincho Paxton]

I think that most of the housemates ended up the same as each other. I think that variety is more entertaining. Danielle who was supposed to be the opposite of Helen ended up being like Helen. Ashleigh ended up like Helen. All of the women were the same apart from Zoe.

The guys with Helen were all the same.

Mark was funny, but had nobody to be funny with.

Chris was intelligent, but had nobody to have intelligent conversations with.


To fix this problem you need a variety of housemates, and when somebody successfully gets into the house they need to be paired with someone equal to them.

[sampvt]

I don't think it has actually failed. It has been harder to watch because a big part of the show was taken away from us and that made us question the values of the show. A combination of too many gamers and too many bitches in there this year has made us question stuff we normally don't get. Its our inability to accept these changes that has ruined or made it infuriatingly hard to watch, but in essence, its the same show, different format, same boring result, a socially inept and otherwise deceptive tosser wins and we pay for the pleasure of watching them rip lumps out of eachother.

[Vladimir]

I don't think it's failed at all.

[Beastie]

I want more "funny" "witty" people who take the piss. I quite liked Matthew to be honest. We evict the wrong ones too early.

[mizzmee]

Originally Posted by Beastie

I want more "funny" "witty" people who take the piss. I quite liked Matthew to be honest. We evict the wrong ones too early.

This 100 percent! This is exactly BB's problem they keep trying to force drama and believe that all the public want to see is 'explosive' characters having arguments. They believe it's the only thing that earns headlines. Truth is, if they gave us fun and entertaining we would lap it up and enjoy it. If they gave us real average normal people who had ups and downs and tried have a laugh, I'd rather that show than this weird borderline scripted reality.
I honestly think if they could all relax in there and not have to walk on egg shells, Winston, Ash, Chris and probably few others would actually be funny.

[joeysteele]

The point is we can only give our own personal feelings as to has it failed.
I haven't been an avid World cup viewer so the world cup played no part as to watching or not watching BB with me, yet I,as a strong fan and supporter of BB, am sick to death of this series and the way it has been played out by BB.

On this thread also,are some people who have been avid fans of BB too and eagerly looked forward to the start of a new series.
They have become disillusioned and very disappointed to say the least the way this series has been planned.
For me I say again, it is the worst I have ever watched and many more like this will see me not bothered if it is on or not in the future.

So for me, in my opinion, it has failed and failed really badly too.