[jet]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

I nearly peed myself she's got her off to a T ,brilliant viewing

That embarrassing display was nothing like Ashleigh, it was like a 27 year old immature woman making fun of girl nearly 10 years younger and looking incredibly silly and spiteful.

[Lex]

Originally Posted by jet

That embarrassing display was nothing like Ashleigh, it was like a 27 year old immature woman making fun of girl nearly 10 years younger and looking incredibly silly and spiteful.

Originally Posted by Lex

Sick of hearing about this "10 years difference" crap!....It's only 9 years btw....and even if it were 99 years...the situation would still be the same!!...Sadleigh is 18 years old...not 18 months old!! ergo...despite acting all childish when it suits her, ...and carrying a flaming Teddy bear...she is actually an adult!

....If you persist in trying to insist that she should be treat like a child ,..even though she does not behave like a child unless she feels that she is not in complete control of the situation...then I suggest that she be withdrawn from the "Adult Version" of BB....and apply for a stint on Crackerjack or something!

...But ask yourself this jet....would you be comfortable knowing that 'your child' as you insist on classing her...was behaving like Sadleigh has done throughout the series????....

[jet]

Originally Posted by jessicadanielle

Definitely. A lot of tonight's episode has been Helen etc. discussing the fact that Ashleigh will probably win, then talking about everything they dislike about her and her friends. They spanned the fact that they think her and Chris' friendship is weird, she's boring, she's playing a game, she knows she's gonna win, she's fake and trying to put on a sweet act, Chris is pussywhipped by her, not giving a **** about being in the house... I think it's pretty obvious that they're trying to minimise her chances of winning by dragging up everything that's possibly unlikeable about her

And she is so obvious about it she's making a complete tool of herself. As usual.

[joeysteele]

Frankly I don't get why she now sees any need to say anything as to ashleigh,she should just ignore her.
I was more irritated at Ashleigh and Chris reading Helen's cv without first asking her permission to.

I prefer Helen when she opens up about herself and just talks in a calm way about her life etc; as she also did in the diary room on tonights highlights.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Lex

Where did I say I wanted to treat her like a child? I am saying HELEN needs to grow up and have the maturity not to make fun of a teenager. 10 years is a long time at that stage of life to gain more knowledge and experience of the world, yet Ashleigh is more mature than Helen is, whose emotional and intellectual growth stopped at age 12.

But ask yourself this jet....would you be comfortable knowing that 'your child' as you insist on classing her...was behaving like Sadleigh has done throughout the series????..

Yes, I'd be very proud if Ashleigh was my daughter. 100% (And I've never once classed her as 'my child')

Would you be proud if Helen was your daughter?

[jet]

Well, Lex? Would you?

[Lex]

Originally Posted by jet

Where did I say I wanted to treat her like a child? I am saying HELEN needs to grow up and have the maturity not to make fun of a teenager. 10 years is a long time at that stage of life to gain more knowledge and experience of the world, yet Ashleigh is more mature than Helen is, whose emotional and intellectual growth stopped at age 12.



Yes, I'd be very proud if Ashleigh was my daughter. 100% (And I've never once classed her as 'my child')

Would you be proud if Helen was your daughter?

You are continually classifying Sadleigh as a child when you keep bleeting about Helen should go easy on her because of the age difference!!..which you will insist on saying is 10 YEARS...when basic maths says that it is 9 YEARS!! ...Sadleigh feels she was old enough to enter the show and act, bitch and scheme like an adult...so , I ask you once again...why should she be treated like a child by Helen ..or anyone else for that matter, when she doesn't act like a child???

Yes!...I would be happy for Helen to be my child...we would have many disagreements i'm sure...but I can plainly see that she would be a decent lass with people that she could trust..ie..her family...ie..ME!....and I strongly suspect that I would have many more laughs with Helen than you could ever hope to have with your Teddy bear carrying little miserable spoilt brat!

[jet]

Originally Posted by Lex

You are continually classifying Sadleigh as a child when you keep bleeting about Helen should go easy on her because of the age difference!!..which you will insist on saying is 10 YEARS...when basic maths says that it is 9 YEARS!! ...Sadleigh feels she was old enough to enter the show and act, bitch and scheme like an adult...so , I ask you once again...why should she be treated like a child by Helen ..or anyone else for that matter, when she doesn't act like a child???

Yes!...I would be happy for Helen to be my child...we would have many disagreements i'm sure...but I can plainly see that she would be a decent lass with people that she could trust..ie..her family...ie..ME!....and I strongly suspect that I would have many more laughs with Helen than you could ever hope to have with your Teddy bear carrying little miserable spoilt brat!

I don't want to continue a conversation with you.

[Creggle]

It was pretty funny, if a little cringe/bitter.

[Lex]

Originally Posted by jet

I don't want to continue a conversation with you.

LOL...ok i'll finish it for you then...

"Because I find it impossible to say that I was wrong!"


Goodbye.

[Jords]

I dont like Helen but she came across absolutely terrible. Jealous that Chris and Christopher prefer Ashleigh's company over herself and bitter that shes perceived worst than Ashleigh outside the house. It came to the point that Helen was compromising by pleading equality with her that theyre both 'bitches'. Quite embarrassing

[rionablue]

I thought it was funny and a lot of what was said was true. As I have said in other posts I have warmed to Helen but I would never in a million years warm towards Ashleigh. The turning on her friends and incessant bitching following the non entity she was in the first few weeks makes her the least deserving winner of those left in there. Her and creepy Chris. Sorry but that's my view

[MartianMark]

"Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery." - Charles Caleb Colton

[Ammi]

..I actually thought it came across as really, really bad and I'm not just saying that because it's Helen...following on from her and Ash's conversation I think out of their group that both genuinely were convinced that Winston or Mark would win and now them being evicted has completely thrown their thought process and left it all wide open to the possibility of either of them winning, which is fine and I understand they think Ashleigh could be the obstacle but I just think how she did it at trying to make Ashleigh look bad just made her look more spiteful...


..with her other DR visit though..(or maybe it was the same one..)..I was really touched by her emotion when she spoke of her son and was also touched by Ashleigh and Chris in the bedroom...just two ladies showing the strain of it all I think and thinking of their loved ones now and seeing them again....

[Natalie.]

I think she came across as quite jealous

[bitontheslide]

Way too much over analysis going on I think. Helen was having a laugh. I am glad to see Helen, Ash and Pav indulging in a bit of tongue in cheek humour in the final week. It would be nice if Ashleigh, Chris and Christopher could lighten up a bit too. They have a few days left, enjoy it ffs.

[parmnion]

She aint got the class of delectable Ashleigh and just comes over as bitter and vile, while Ashleigh comes across as FUNNY AND ADORABLE.

[Raph]

Helen spilling the truth tea about the mood brat

[booboomartin]

Originally Posted by MrWong

She came over as an incredibly bitter, jealous hag.

It was written all over her face.

well done, that was a perfect description of ashleigh. i could not have put it better myself. helen to win.

[susie q]

Pity she didnt concentrate a bit more on talking about her son, it might haave made her look a bit more of a normal human being, instead of a very jealous & twisted individual.

[Tip]

I don't have any expectation that Helen would act in a mature way - I've not seen any examples of it in the house really.

So, I have nothing to say much about this, it was Helen being as she is - opinionated, often wrong but sometimes right, often not particularly nice, often down right horrible and playing up to the camera, or just venting frustration that Ashleigh is still in the house and people like her. She is capable of being nice, she just doesn't have enough maturity to control her base reactions.

I don't expect anyone to be nice in the Diary Room - so Helen behaving like this and Ashleigh behaving as she does -doesn't get me on any high horses.

I'm very bored with Helen and Ashleigh so this is where BB gets even more pointless for me.

[MarcusMel]

Two children pulling each others hair for no real reason other than not liking the respect they get from the other.

[booboomartin]

Originally Posted by Morrissey

I think she came across as quite jealous

i agree with you, ashleigh is a jealous, petulant female, prone to throwing her toys out of her pram when, she does not get her own way. helen to win