[jessicadanielle]

Originally Posted by beardedbloke

Her idea of an 'undivided' house would be all the housemates being HER lapdogs. Ashleigh has a mind of her own and did not want to join Helen's gang and be just another follower. THAT is what has caused the divide.

Helen even said that she doesn't like the 'boring old farts' - what more evidence can you have that Helen sees people as either her followers or her enemies.

EXACTLYYY. When she says she's happy to live in a group, she means she's happy for everyone to be up her arse and acting just like she does (meaning quite extravert, loud, bit crude maybe.... Not saying there's anything wrong with those traits, just that she thinks there's something wrong with not being those things). The minute anyone goes against that, she's pissed off. I'd imagine in real life that's how her friends act

[beardedbloke]

Originally Posted by jessicadanielle

EXACTLYYY. When she says she's happy to live in a group, she means she's happy for everyone to be up her arse and acting just like she does (meaning quite extravert, loud, bit crude maybe.... Not saying there's anything wrong with those traits, just that she thinks there's something wrong with not being those things). The minute anyone goes against that, she's pissed off. I'd imagine in real life that's how her friends act

I agree jessica. There's nothing wrong with being extrovert, loud and crude, and equally there's nothing wrong with being quiet and reflective. But Helen thinks there is something wrong with someone who is quiet and she makes their lives miserable and THAT'S what makes her a nasty bully. She's unbelievably judgmental and when the victim of her judgement doesn't crumble, she calls them a bitch.

Can't stand the woman

[rionablue]

Helens tears were real just like her tears when Steven left. If she broke down completely crying her heart out some people would still say they were fake. There is good in the worst of us and bad in the best of us. This is something my mother told me when I was young and I try to live with that in mind. Take Helen for example. She has been controversial, spiteful bitchy and loud mouthed specially in the first few weeks. Yet she is fiercely loyal to her friends and has been unwavering in her relationship with Ash. Now take Ashleigh, she is pretty, young and smart but she has an ugly side to her that tends to bitch and screw up her face in a most ugly way. If Ashleigh cries people say poor Ashleigh if Helen cries people say fake. I believe she was genuninely upset

[the truth]

she hasnt learnt a thing she never ever will.........though shes perhaps not as evil as some would have us believe

[the truth]

Originally Posted by rionablue

Helens tears were real just like her tears when Steven left. If she broke down completely crying her heart out some people would still say they were fake. There is good in the worst of us and bad in the best of us. This is something my mother told me when I was young and I try to live with that in mind. Take Helen for example. She has been controversial, spiteful bitchy and loud mouthed specially in the first few weeks. Yet she is fiercely loyal to her friends and has been unwavering in her relationship with Ash. Now take Ashleigh, she is pretty, young and smart but she has an ugly side to her that tends to bitch and screw up her face in a most ugly way. If Ashleigh cries people say poor Ashleigh if Helen cries people say fake. I believe she was genuninely upset

i find ashleigh a disturblingly cold person. in reality in everyday life with all the trials and tribulations id far far far rather have helen as a friend fighting my corner than stuck up ashleigh....lets face it life is a war and sometimes you need a battle hardened soldier like helen to survive