[Northern Monkey]

To Helen in the bathroomHe could've atleast lied a little bit.Did'nt exactly make her feel better.Thought he had a psych degree?

[kistar]

Originally Posted by EyeballPaul

To Helen in the bathroomHe could've atleast lied a little bit.Did'nt exactly make her feel better.Thought he had a psych degree?

bless him men never seem to say the right thing in those situations .

[Vladimir]

Lmao even Helen's 'friends' can't deny her nastiness.

[Miranda123]

Originally Posted by EyeballPaul

To Helen in the bathroomHe could've atleast lied a little bit.Did'nt exactly make her feel better.Thought he had a psych degree?

does anyone know how to insert a youtube video in a post??

[Northern Monkey]

I would hate to see him at a funeral trying comfort the bereaved.

[Nedusa]

Too little too late with Pav, a joke HM at best , should never have been selected to go into the BB house.

Some serious string pulling I fear has taken place to get this nonentity onto the show.




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[Robodog]

Yeah he couldn't have actually been less comforting or understanding if he tried.

He couldn't even close the door behind him when he walked in on her crying in private.

What a tool.

[jessicadanielle]

Tbh if he'd been more comforting he'd have probably been criticised for being up her arse and not "saying it how it is"

[joeysteele]

Not Pav's best moment, they all seem to putting their foot in it.

[coffee]

Well if she isn't told by her own friends then how will she learn?

[Sophiee]

this endeared me to pav a bit more at last actually just because he was finally speaking his mind and it was good to see him have a real opinion on something for once and not being afraid of expressing it.

[mrflibble]

I thought it was the best thing for him to say. Blunt and honest, just how Helen likes it. He didn't suck up to her, he didn't lie, he didn't sugar coat it, he was unbiased. I was rather impressed with what he said and Pav hasn't done much to impress at all.

[Mrjrb2014]

was a bit funny and odd how direct he was being..didn't expect him to be that direct at that moment
lol@helen saying "she is far worse than me"

[Lister of Smeg]

I actually applaud him for saying what he said anything less wouldn't be the truth no point sugar coating it .

[AarynGriesfan]

I certainly did enjoy this scene. I definitely wasn't expecting Pav to say what he said which made it so great.

[Ammi]

..I think the only thing he did wrong was to maybe not sandwich it a bit with pointing out some of the things he liked about her personality and he must like and see some good stuff as he's chosen to be part of that group..?...to me, Pav is what Helen needs in a friend but she also needs someone like Ash as well so if you could combine and blend Pav and Ash into one person the a Pavash would be perfect for what I think a true friend would give her...would she like all of that friend..?..no because they would be also telling her things that she doesn't want to hear but they would be things that she should hear and she should think about and that would make her a better person if she heeded them..but hearing only negatives would be just as damaging to her as I think being an 'excuser' of her is, which is what others have been in the house..Ash is an excuser but he also sees the good in her and that she doesn't mean to always react like she does or say the things she does and that she's 'misunderstood'..she's not really misunderstood as such because she does project such negativity regardless of whether she means to or not..the 'intentions' stop being relevant when she creates the environments she creates...she needs friends like Ash but she also needs a balance to those friends who enable her and that's what Pav was trying to do and probably the most positive thing that anyone in the house has done with her but just maybe he could have 'cushioned' it a bit more..see, there is a time and a place for 'telling it how it is'.....but I admired what he did, I understood what he did..I wish that Helen hadn't shut him down because all she was focused on is someone not 'getting the better' of her but I think probably his timing was way off as well and timing is all important for people to 'receive' information and absorb it and while she was upset, that wasn't the best....I hope when she leaves the house, she finds a Pavash and then maybe she'll start to understand the balances of life more and with that she'll see that the world is not there to fight....