[waterhog]

wrightstuff debate - why i object to a 4 day working week 23.09.14

this idea is crazy
it will cause mega frustration
the personnel can not be lazy
90% of every business will now be about the calculation.
of-course some it would suit
they will get a extra smile
925am on ITV is guaranteed to pollute
always looking for "suckers" is Jeremy Vile.
others it will hinder
it could well make them unstuck
allot less down is the bank cylinder
a 4 day week to them is not luck.
if everyone is working less
the tax will be down
with Kate's new sprog to bless
more money is needed for the crown.
everyone always condemns the minority
saying the unemployed are bone idle
what a turn around from the authority
hypocritical is a blatant and to common style.
i don't work for a living
my poetry runs 7 days a week till i am dead
this is a 24 hour business non stop giving
not everything in life is about making bread.


( this was debated on the wrightstuff this very morning. i can not help but think how harsh everyone is on the unemployed in this country, but when you look at the percentage to how many people actually work,it is a tiny minute percentage and i can not understand the argument for going to a 4 day week from a 5 day week as surely this is going to make people worse off. and many are struggling already so taking home less can not help there situation. i am not saying it is not ok to go from a 5 day a week to a 4 day a week if you are on or above £100 000 a year as these people can well afford this. but what do you think ? would you take off a days wages to work 1 less day a week ? could you cope ? love it if your reply could rhyme. i would try and get this to Justin i mean john no mark or Mathew or what ever his name is but i just don't think he will get it.)

[Crimson Dynamo]

I think people should work 7 days a week and have just one weekend off a month

lazy feckers

[waterhog]

lazy feckers - is that youuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu


agnus where have you been ? its me winny. i am in disguise like you.

[Kizzy]

Maybe if the working day was longer on the 4 days it would factor in the 5th day? 4 days on 3 days off seems fine, a good work life balance.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Maybe if the working day was longer on the 4 days it would factor in the 5th day? 4 days on 3 days off seems fine, a good work life balance.

My working week tends to be 4 days, ranging from 7 to 13.5 hour days. If I do three full days I can get a full 40 hour week in 3 days.

Personally I prefer it. If I'm working I'm working... if it's 11 - 7 it might as well be 8.30 - 10. It's a couple of extra hours either side that I'd just be sat around doing nothing, anyway, especially in the morning after the school run. I'm up anyway! Would rather do the long days and have more full days off.

[waterhog]

i don't no how you fit it all in and where you get the energy from.

[Nedusa]

No , I think a 4 (consecutive) day week is fine with a 3 day weekend.

If you work a 9 or 10 hour day then you have actually done a full weeks work in those 4 days so what's the problem.

As a good work/life balance a 4 day week makes perfect sense.




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[smudgie]

Hubby does 4 x 12hous shifts then has 4 days off, then after every 7 and a half weeks he has 18 days off.

Brilliant.

[Kizzy]

A lot of nurses do 10 and 12hr shifts... god I hope I get in this year

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

A lot of nurses do 10 and 12hr shifts... god I hope I get in this year

My dad (now retired) was a psychiatric nurse for 25 years, I remember him occasionally doing what he called the "super shift"... Basically, there was a completely uncontrollable psychotic teenage boy who needed 3 male staff, 24/7, just to stop him from bashing anyone's head in (or his own...). He used to come home with chunks of hair missing, black eyes, covered in vomit... etc... Anyway, people who volunteered for such madness got double time, and he got double time Sundays. So sometimes he would do a 14 hour Sunday shift at 4x pay rate, earning over £100 an hour (so nearly £1.5k for one shift).

Crazy really. How much mist it have been costing every year to care for that boy...

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

My dad (now retired) was a psychiatric nurse for 25 years, I remember him occasionally doing what he called the "super shift"... Basically, there was a completely uncontrollable psychotic teenage boy who needed 3 male staff, 24/7, just to stop him from bashing anyone's head in (or his own...). He used to come home with chunks of hair missing, black eyes, covered in vomit... etc... Anyway, people who volunteered for such madness got double time, and he got double time Sundays. So sometimes he would do a 14 hour Sunday shift at 4x pay rate, earning over £100 an hour (so nearly £1.5k for one shift).

Crazy really. How much mist it have been costing every year to care for that boy...

Was there a point to this... what are you saying some people don't deserve care?

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Was there a point to this... what are you saying some people don't deserve care?

No?

[Kizzy]

So just what are you saying then, that the child was a drain on resources.. or nurses are paid too much?

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

So just what are you saying then, that the child was a drain on resources.. or nurses are paid too much?

Neither, it started off as an extreme example of how someone might choose to work a hard (risking serious injury), long shift rather than a full week of shorter, easier shifts (which is what the thread is about).

The second part, I was just taken aback when I actually considered the resources for him to be cared for 24/7 (over £1 million per year). So yes, a drain on resources but I'm not suggesting that there would be any alternative.

[waterhog]

don't ask me to do a poem on minimum wage - i am not paid enough to sort that one out ?

[billy123]

Complete Waterhogwash.
You have no idea of who anybody is and what hours they work and for what reason.
I work about 18 hours a day three days a week do you think some knobrat in westminister or wherever that utter crap you have posted has come from will change that?
The answer is no. I have no idea where you dragged that crap up from but its not how the world really works.
You must be a bit backwards if you think anybody that doesnt work a 40 hour monday to friday job needs legislation.
Wake up.

Do you work waterhog?

[waterhog]

bobnot you have misunderstood
i have no faith in parliament but more in the BB brotherhood.
but with this standing
it does not mean a free ride to them is landing.
while they don't practice and preach
and claim expenses like a leach.
its wrong to set the law
especially for those who have it raw.
i am for the people who work hard
to all of westminister i would give the red card.
none have a clue
and thats why most go blue.
the reason why anyone works is lute
so put away your pipe or that flute.
noone should be abused
a decent wage should never be defused.
you are confusing my points and not heeding
because i am for the workers that are bleeding.
try to understand what i say
and for this special poem, your lucky i don't want pay.