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Originally Posted by lostalex

so if you think an EU def3e4nce force is impraticcal, what is thje alternative? just relying on the US???

wake up!

what happens if the US decides NATO is a waste tomorrow, what would you suggest? i bet you'd be calling for an EU defense/military then.

NATO is making Europe lazy and cheap. time for a wake up caLL. the US should cut funding to NATO until Europe steps up and starts pulling it's OWN weight. The US is being made a fool of by doing all the important stuff for the security of people on the other side of the planet. Europeans clearly think we are idiots. why should they do it when they can just use US to do it.

Europe is making Americans look like stupid fools, they are just using us for their security without having to pay the bill.

It's time for Europe to MAN THE **** UP.

Don't even begin to lecture me on this subject, OK?

This is not about America, this is about Europe, and I will state categorically that the UK wouldn't even entertain a European defense force within the next 50 years. What the rest of Europe does is entirely up to them, I am specifically referring to the UK, who, have been punching above their weight in terms of international defense for a long long time. So don't play the do more card on that one.