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Originally Posted by waterhog

i remember when labour got in and how thrilled i was and i remember the decline when t. blair went and that was labours downfall - they were clueless. it got so bad they soon got booted but the tories have done no better. this is why again ukip are on the rise. they see the problem - not afraid to say the problem and have action on the problem. weather you like them on not you have to respect ukip are the only party doing it correctly.

That is the thing however,it should not be seen as a problem,it shouldn't be treated as a bad thing by anyone aspiring to have any say in Govt.

UKIP demonising and now this present Govt doing so to a degree tooas to immigration only brings out the negatives as to reasoned debate on the subject.
Both govts of the major parties have failed badly as to the issue,however taking the sting out of UKIP's demonisation of immigration by working together to find a concensus on the issue, would not only defuse the nastiness that exists now towards immigration but could even bring about a sensible policy as to it for the long term future too.

I don't think demonising any immigrants or anyone else or any sections of society for that matter is any positive or right way forward and therefore I treat with contempt the way UKIP love to use immigration and the EU particularly as the reason for all the UK's ills.

To me UKIP are now a very dangerous party for the future of the UK indeed in politics,for all the wrong reasons.