[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

What worries me as to her that when she gets support, she will likely become even more deluded as to thinking her way is the 'only' right way.

I would be massively worried for the UK if more and more people supported her vile,heartless views and thought genuinely that the people she ridicules and condemns deserve to be.

I agree with Vanessa,she is beyond defence because she has no 'official' statistics or even medical know how to back up her rotten vile, heartless comments.
Just pure spite and prejudice, she does get me angry because she is a rotten human being in my view, and I for one would love to really shout her down and expose her lies and rottenness as to people she has no real idea what they are really going through.
Yet can judge, comdemn and belittle so easily,albeit greatly wrongly.

Joey I respect your views as you know,but don't you like Perez? if so ,do you know some of the vile things he has got under his belt ? this annoys me as people seem to overlook his vile ways but condemn hers.Why?

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Joey I respect your views as you know,but don't you like Perez? if so ,do you know some of the vile things he has got under his belt ? this annoys me as people seem to overlook his vile ways but condemn hers.Why?

That's what i don't get as well, he has said much worse things than Hopkins ever has imo, but they're always get pushed aside in favour of hatred towards Katie, it's bizarre how some people could be so blinded by one sided perspective.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by LiamPRW

That's what i don't get as well, he has said much worse things than Hopkins ever has imo, but they always pushed aside in favour of hatred towards Katie, it's bizarre how some people could be so blinded by one sided perspective.

Yes,they seem to have brushed it all aside and conveniently forgotten what he is ?

[Helen 28]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Joey I respect your views as you know,but don't you like Perez? if so ,do you know some of the vile things he has got under his belt ? this annoys me as people seem to overlook his vile ways but condemn hers.Why?

Women haters and gay lovers I presume.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Joey I respect your views as you know,but don't you like Perez? if so ,do you know some of the vile things he has got under his belt ? this annoys me as people seem to overlook his vile ways but condemn hers.Why?

Kazanne, I have fought against prejudice that is wrong and unfounded ever since I was 15,no matter who does it.
I also have not overlooked his wrongs, in the house if you read back throught he threads you will see I said when he was wrong in things he had said and done.

I don't judge children on their first names as being of a lower class, I don't think people with cancer should be made to be occupied with some work to keep them busy.
I don't believe, and I also know from the work I have done with people on benefits, that what she says when generalising aout them is wrong and misleading,in fact pure lies some of it.

I also don't judge people that are overweight as people to be written off either like she does.
I have a relative,a nd know of others, who are diabetic, it was not controlled properly, they were put on high doses of insulin,their weight rocketed.
Katie Hopkins would dismiss that,having likely little knowledge of diabetes but still speaking prejudicially as to those overweight, putting them altogether as lazy, not doing the right things, generalising as to them all.

I have intensely disliked Katie Hopkins ever since I came across her and even moreso when I was in the audience of a debate she was taking part in and heard her vile judgements and condemnations of others,especially the sick and disabled, mainly of people she sees as far lower class.

Perez, I found entertaining, he was childish, ridiculous, over the top but I found him entertaining.I have never ever said I liked him as a person but give me Perez with his childish hyperactive antics anyday as opposed Katie Hopkins.

I am stunned at the people who do support and like her,Perez in the main attacked celebrities,she chooses regularly to insult and judge and really bring down people who are far weaker and poorer than her as to status.

I hope in all my life I will always take a stand against the likes of Katie Hopkins,I hate with a passion anyone who is uncompromising and full of hateful heartless prejudiced opinion that she holds to whole sections of society.
I hope I never lose sight of that and never come to support anyone like that either no matter where they may be or what they are doing.

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Kazanne, I have fought against prejudice that is wrong and unfounded ever since I was 15,no matter who does it.
I also have not overlooked his wrongs, in the house if you read back throught he threads you will see I said when he was wrong in things he had said and done.

I don't judge children on their first names as being of a lower class, I don't think people with cancer should be made to be occupied with some work to keep them busy.
I don't believe, and I also know from the work I have done with people on benefits, that what she says when generalising aout them is wrong and misleading,in fact pure lies some of it.

I also don't judge people that are overweight as people to be written off either like she does.
I have a relative,a nd know of others, who are diabetic, it was not controlled properly, they were put on high doses of insulin,their weight rocketed.
Katie Hopkins would dismiss that,having likely little knowledge of diabetes but still speaking prejudicially as to those overweight, putting them altogether as lazy, not doing the right things, generalising as to them all.

I have intensely disliked Katie Hopkins ever since I came across her and even moreso when I was in the audience of a debate she was taking part in and heard her vile judgements and condemnations of others,especially the sick and disabled, mainly of people she sees as far lower class.

Perez, I found entertaining, he was childish, ridiculous, over the top but I found him entertaining.I have never ever said I liked him as a person but give me Perez with his childish hyperactive antics anyday as opposed Katie Hopkins.

I am stunned at the people who do support and like her,Perez in the main attacked celebrities,she chooses regularly to insult and judge and really bring down people who are far weaker and poorer than her as to status.

I hope in all my life I will always take a stand against the likes of Katie Hopkins,I hate with a passion anyone who is uncompromising and full of hateful heartless prejudiced opinion that she holds to whole sections of society.
I hope I never lose sight of that and never come to support anyone like that either no matter where they may be or what they are doing.

Joey quoted your question and responded Kaz

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

Joey quoted your question and responded Kaz

Thanks Annie,I'll PM him this could be a long one I love Joey and respect his views though

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

Joey quoted your question and responded Kaz

I couldn't have made it big enough could I.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I couldn't have made it big enough could I.

Filth.

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Joey I respect your views as you know,but don't you like Perez? if so ,do you know some of the vile things he has got under his belt ? this annoys me as people seem to overlook his vile ways but condemn hers.Why?

But that's also true if you flip it....katie hopkins overlook her behaviour.

As someone who doesn't like either it's quite amusing to see.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

But that's also true if you flip it....katie hopkins overlook her behaviour.

As someone who doesn't like either it's quite amusing to see.

I'm not overlooking it though,she was too harsh with some stuff she said,but the question was,Why are Perez fans overlooking his vile behaviour,still no answer to this.

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

I'm not overlooking it though,she was too harsh with some stuff she said,but the question was,Why are Perez fans overlooking his vile behaviour,still no answer to this.

You'd have to ask his fans and I think Joey did answer. I was specifically meaning you but a lot fans on both sides are guilty of rose tinted specs where their favourites are concerned

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

toes tinted specs

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Not partial to a bit of toe tinting marsh?

[Vanessa]

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

You'd have to ask his fans and I think Joey did answer. I was specifically meaning you but a lot fans on both sides are guilty of toes tinted specs where their favourites are concerned

I don't automatically hate people who don't like her though,that is all rather silly,imo.

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

I don't automatically hate people who don't like her though,that is all rather silly,imo.

Absolutely, couldn't agree more.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

Absolutely, couldn't agree more.

I just hate Hopkins, that is all and no one else.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

Absolutely, couldn't agree more.

Annie,can you point me to Joeys answer to my question,I cant find it

[smudgie]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

I don't automatically hate people who don't like her though,that is all rather silly,imo.

Thank goodness for that Kaz

The best way is for all to have their own opinions..and agree to disagree without all the silliness.

[Jules2]

Originally Posted by smudgie

Thank goodness for that Kaz

The best way is for all to have their own opinions..and agree to disagree without all the silliness.

Well said Smudgie I for one agree totally Wouldnt it be boring if we all agreed we just wouldnt have a debate

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

I'm not overlooking it though,she was too harsh with some stuff she said,but the question was,Why are Perez fans overlooking his vile behaviour,still no answer to this.

For myself, I have answered that point and at great length too as you requested.

I repeat again, there were many things I disliked as to Perez's behaviour, I saw his behaviour as hyperactive and childish but I found it more entertaining than hers.

I knew of him, but little of him before he went in the house but I knew more about her, none of which I liked.
If you read my posts at the start of this series you would have found I went as far as I could to give her the benefit of the doubt but then her mask slipped.

I have however in fact answered so you have had an answer from some with respect.
I also feel more of us who supported Perez 'against her', have seen far more of his wrongs and faults and said so,than has been pointed as to the faults and wrongs of Katie Hopkins.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

For myself, I have answered that point and at great length too as you requested.

I repeat again, there were many things I disliked as to Perez's behaviour, I saw his behaviour as hyperactive and childish but I found it more entertaining than hers.

I knew of him, but little of him before he went in the house but I knew more about her, none of which I liked.
If you read my posts at the start of this series you would have found I went as far as I could to give her the benefit of the doubt but then her mask slipped.

I have however in fact answered so you have had an answer from some with respect.
I also feel more of us who supported Perez 'against her', have seen far more of his wrongs and faults and said so,than has been pointed as to the faults and wrongs of Katie Hopkins.

I agree. Also, i think his behaviour got worse the more some of the housemates isolated him and KH goaded him.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

For myself, I have answered that point and at great length too as you requested.

I repeat again, there were many things I disliked as to Perez's behaviour, I saw his behaviour as hyperactive and childish but I found it more entertaining than hers.

I knew of him, but little of him before he went in the house but I knew more about her, none of which I liked.
If you read my posts at the start of this series you would have found I went as far as I could to give her the benefit of the doubt but then her mask slipped.

I have however in fact answered so you have had an answer from some with respect.
I also feel more of us who supported Perez 'against her', have seen far more of his wrongs and faults and said so,than has been pointed as to the faults and wrongs of Katie Hopkins.

Just got it Joey Annie pointed it out,I am digesting it

[Jules2]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

For myself, I have answered that point and at great length too as you requested.

I repeat again, there were many things I disliked as to Perez's behaviour, I saw his behaviour as hyperactive and childish but I found it more entertaining than hers.

I knew of him, but little of him before he went in the house but I knew more about her, none of which I liked.
If you read my posts at the start of this series you would have found I went as far as I could to give her the benefit of the doubt but then her mask slipped.

I have however in fact answered so you have had an answer from some with respect.
I also feel more of us who supported Perez 'against her', have seen far more of his wrongs and faults and said so,than has been pointed as to the faults and wrongs of Katie Hopkins.

It could be because some of us saw no wrong in her It could be because Perez was such a plonker that we saw KH standing up to him whereas others thought the same but said nothing.

It could possibly be because some of us consider it a game, some of us put bets on (not me), some of us just want our favourite to get to the winning post. No matter what, it is up to we who criticise to prove our points and not the other way around.

Is the idea of the game to get to the winning post or have I got it wrong? Everyone has their own idea and each idea should be considered. As usual it just depends on how one feels.