[Jules2]

Originally Posted by Johnnyuk123

Alexander gave an interview after he left.

In view of events DRooms tantrums, Alex' obvious uneasiness, Perez coughing all over him and even continuing when he was asked not to, in view of a lot of things I agree, he left because of Perez. He did the right thing as he was afraid of showing himself up and possibly hitting him. The majority of the HMs said the same thing. All in the past now, would love to go to one of Alexs performances.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Johnnyuk123

And please understand or try to understand that Pratez knew who was going in the house and had studied them prior to going in along with reading the rule book constantly on how to get someone evicted.

Omg, no! Really? That's so relevant to the conversation.

Thanks Johnny.

[Johnnyuk123]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Well, a lot of addicts pretend they've been clean for so long but I suspect he had a casual habit to keep him ticking over. Thought he could step out for a couple of weeks and couldn't hack it. Hence the slightest thing like Perez standing in the kitchen driving him over the edge.

Pratez in the kitchen was just one thing. Following Alexander around the house and laughing in his face and the 4am coughing by Alexanders bedside until he woke up whilst prior to talking into his mic from the toilet that he is about to go in the bedroom to wake Alexander up?

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by Johnnyuk123

And all this was said IN the CBB house?

No but neither was she perez stuff

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

Every person with a ginger baby should have bopper Katie Hopkins for saying they're harder to love.
Every fat person should have decked her for calling them lazy and unemployable
Every glaswegian should have got her for the jibes after the terrible air crash.
Every Palestinian should have hunted yer down for wishing death on them

I could go on but I'm only stirring

Sorry

But we all know already what she has said,I have my views on those things you mention Annie,but don't think they are for the forum

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Well, a lot of addicts pretend they've been clean for so long but I suspect he had a casual habit to keep him ticking over. Thought he could step out for a couple of weeks and couldn't hack it. Hence the slightest thing like Perez standing in the kitchen driving him over the edge.

Maybe he might have done, but from what we know, he was clean before going into the house, so really saying he was going through withdrawal can hardly cut it as a valid argument to try and make Perez seem less of a wanker

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

Every person with a ginger baby should have bopper Katie Hopkins for saying they're harder to love.
Every fat person should have decked her for calling them lazy and unemployable
Every glaswegian should have got her for the jibes after the terrible air crash.
Every Palestinian should have hunted yer down for wishing death on them

I could go on but I'm only stirring

Sorry

It is a waste of time, even when we point out we saw wrongs in Perez and even criticised some things he did in the house, it seems Katie Hopkins is faultless and no bad in her at all while Perez is all bad.

I have listed even more of her vile attitude and prejudices, not just to single figures but as to whole entire sections of society that are not her ideal perfect people.
It just goes by and is dismissed, just as she would do.

Says a lot really.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Johnnyuk123

Pratez in the kitchen was just one thing. Following Alexander around the house and laughing in his face and the 4am coughing by Alexanders bedside until he woke up whilst prior to talking into his mic from the toilet that he is about to go in the bedroom to wake Alexander up?

Yes, not the entire bedroom, just Alexander. How selective.

[Kazanne]

ENOUGH,ENOUGH,ENOUGH

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Well, a lot of addicts pretend they've been clean for so long but I suspect he had a casual habit to keep him ticking over. Thought he could step out for a couple of weeks and couldn't hack it. Hence the slightest thing like Perez standing in the kitchen driving him over the edge.

A woman who lives in my street in an addict and she goes mental after a day without a fix. If Alexander was withdrawing he would be shaking, crawling the walls...his actions within the house were not of a man who even had a habit.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by LiamPRW

Maybe he might have done, but from what we know, he was clean before going into the house, so really saying he was going through withdrawal can hardly cut it as a valid argument to try and make Perez seem less of a wanker

Hey, I'm not trying to make him seem less of a wanker.

I'm just pointing out where we draw the line when it comes to blaming other's issues on him.

Is he at fault for Patsy's panic attacks?

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

It is a waste of time, even when we point out we saw wrongs in Perez and even criticised some things he did in the house, it seems Katie Hopkins is faultless and no bad in her at all while Perez is all bad.

I have listed even more of her vile attitude and prejudices, not just to single figures but as to whole entire sections of society that are not her ideal perfect people.
It just goes by and is dismissed, just as she would do.

Says a lot really.

I think the way they're behaving outside the House says it all. Perez has said nothing, while going back to his life. KH is still mouthing off about him.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

A woman who lives in my street in an addict and she goes mental after a day without a fix. If Alexander was withdrawing he would be shaking, crawling the walls...his actions within the house were not of a man who even had a habit.

Hence why I said "casual". Not a full blown crackhead.

There is such a thing as a functioning addict who can cope on relatively little but if they go for so much time they get quite irritable.

I'm not suggesting he was going cold turkey from a full blown addiction.

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

But we all know already what she has said,I have my views on those things you mention Annie,but don't think they are for the forum

I was only playing Kaz. ..i already knew the perez stuff too and it is awful the things he's done and said similarly Katie.

Anyway I'm going to get off the fence, put my big wooden spoon away and bugger off for the evening.

Goodnight all

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Hey, I'm not trying to make him seem less of a wanker.

I'm just pointing out where we draw the line when it comes to blaming other's issues on him.

Is he at fault for Patsy's panic attacks?

Perez is the new Jim!
We need to make a thread "what else can you blame Perez for? "

[bitontheslide]

all i see is deflection on to what Perez has done on KH thread. Apart from the small handful of Perez supporters, everyone knows that Perez was a dick. The point is KH was a dick before she entered the house, was a dick in it, and has carried on being a dick outside again. Nothing to justify or argue about. She is a dick

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Hence why I said "casual". Not a full blown crackhead.

There is such a thing as a functioning addict who can cope on relatively little but if they go for so much time they get quite irritable.

I'm not suggesting he was going cold turkey from a full blown addiction.

You said he was having withdrawals. A casual drug user would not have withdrawls.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

I think the way they're behaving outside the House says it all. Perez has said nothing, while going back to his life. KH is still mouthing off about him.

I just despair that this woman commands such respect and support from parts of the UK.
It also really worries me that her opinions and prejudices carry any weight at all.
It's frightening almost really.

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Hey, I'm not trying to make him seem less of a wanker.

I'm just pointing out where we draw the line when it comes to blaming other's issues on him.

Is he at fault for Patsy's panic attacks?

Oh yeah, Perez obviously wasn't completely to blame for Alex going back to crack, but no doubt that the stress he put Alex and everyone else under gave him a nudge in that direction

God no, Patsy would have had a meltdown if she was in there with the Dalai lama

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

I was only playing Kaz. ..i already knew the perez stuff too and it is awful the things he's done and said similarly Katie.

Anyway I'm going to get off the fence, put my big wooden spoon away and bugger off for the evening.

Goodnight all

I know you was Annie,me too,you have a nice evening,I do like a good old debate ,just annoying when it gets nasty and silly

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I just despair that this woman commands such respect and support from parts of the UK.
It also really worries me that her opinions and prejudices carry any weight at all.
It's frightening almost really.

I agree. But i also believe in kharma and she will get hers soon.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

You said he was having withdrawals. A casual drug user would not have withdrawls.

I also said to Liam "I was joking, being facetious" but you missed that?

[Jules2]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Alexander voluntarily left. FACT.

Hi Marsh I would think the majority realise that but as Perez was in the DR having a tantrum I guess the producers agreed pretty quick. We saw Alex in there earlier saying that Perez was in every corner and he couldnt take it. What I will never understand is why they didnt ask him to think it over, the only reason I can think of is because their supposed blue eyed ratings boy was having a tantrum. Makes you wonder if seeing as P had the ears of the producers did he make the same threat to walk out as he did for Ken? We know that both Nadia and Perez threatened to walk out if Ken wasnt removed.

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

I also said to Liam "I was joking, being facetious" but you missed that?

Sure Marsh you're always right

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Jules2

Hi Marsh I would think the majority realise that but as Perez was in the DR having a tantrum I guess the producers agreed pretty quick. We saw Alex in there earlier saying that Perez was in every corner and he couldnt take it. What I will never understand is why they didnt ask him to think it over, the only reason I can think of is because their supposed blue eyed ratings boy was having a tantrum. Makes you wonder if seeing as P had the ears of the producers did he make the same threat to walk out as he did for Ken? We know that both Nadia and Perez threatened to walk out if Ken wasnt removed.

I can't really comment on the stuff that never made it to air because it's all "he said, she said" really. But, yes, no doubt a lot of unaired material would shed light on the situation.