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Old 08-11-2012, 03:31 PM #76
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That will still be good.

The stuff leading up to WW2 esp. Mussloni is an underrated as a figure in history in terms of his impact. Sure he became second dog to Hilter during WW2 but leading up to it he was very instramental to it all. And the rise of Fascism as a whole.
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Good stuff, I will look forward to it, do tend to find the late 19th/early 20th century one the most interesting historical periods
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I don't know why, but I tend to find the old communist dictators and their time in power very interesting.

Mao and Stalin are probably my favourites even though they're both deeply awful people. I just find that cult of personality aspect and the mass hysteria it caused in the people bizarre. That and the fact that they both transformed backwards, agrarian economies into industrial powerhouses. I quite like Deng Xiaoping too. The way he modernised China from an old Stalinist state into the China of today is a pretty amazing.

Also, speaking of personality cults, Kim-Il-Sung and his still ongoing glorification in North Korea is something I find to be incredibly odd, yet still intriguing.
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I found Hitler's regime interesting as he liked his people to have blonde hair yet he had dark hair, and I wonder what made him hate the world as much as he did.
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I don't know why, but I tend to find the old communist dictators and their time in power very interesting.

Mao and Stalin are probably my favourites even though they're both deeply awful people. I just find that cult of personality aspect and the mass hysteria it caused in the people bizarre. That and the fact that they both transformed backwards, agrarian economies into industrial powerhouses. I quite like Deng Xiaoping too. The way he modernised China from an old Stalinist state into the China of today is a pretty amazing.

Also, speaking of personality cults, Kim-Il-Sung and his still ongoing glorification in North Korea is something I find to be incredibly odd, yet still intriguing.
As do I. Though I prefer Lenin over Stalin in terms of historical interest
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As do I. Though I prefer Lenin over Stalin in terms of historical interest
Lenin does seem like an interesting guy. I don't know too much about him though. We only touched on him briefly when we learn about Stalinist Russia at school. I'll have to read up on him sometime..
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Imperial Russia > Soviet Russia

I do find the early stages of the Revolution interesting though, and the civil war
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Imperial Russia > Soviet Russia

I do find the early stages of the Revolution interesting though, and the civil war
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I do find the early stages of the Revolution interesting though, and the civil war
I don't really find the Imperial Russia stuff interesting tbh. I haven't looked into it in depth, but from the little I've read it seems like the classic story of the the rich aristocracy oppressing the poor. I just don't find it all that intriguing.

I find all the sneaky political stuff and all the crazy things that went on within Stalinist Russia far more interesting. Like the fact that within Stalin's speeches, if you were the first to sit down after applause you'd likely be executed. It was absolute insanity.
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I don't really find the Imperial Russia stuff interesting tbh. I haven't looked into it in depth, but from the little I've read it seems like the classic story of the the rich aristocracy oppressing the poor. I just don't find it all that intriguing.

I find all the sneaky political stuff and all the crazy things that went on within Stalinist Russia far more interesting. Like the fact that within Stalin's speeches, if you were the first to sit down after applause you'd likely be executed. It was absolute insanity.
The debates they were having to have near the end of the Imperial era were quite interesting though, how and if they could remain an autocracy while having to deal with all the pressures and changes of the era

Does actually sound pretty boring when I put it like that but I find it really interesting for some reason
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Michael Collins, did great things for Ireland (eventhough he lost the 6 counties) and he's a Cork man

you should look into your history a bit more, he didn't lose the 6 counties. There was nothing he could do when he went over to London plus there were 5 other men with him. De Valera was too chicken to go with him and the only reason he sent Collins because he knew partition wouldn't end in Northern Ireland meaning Collins would get the blame. He didn't lose them, they were already lost after the Government of Ireland Act 1920. Collins was a hero, even thought his aims were never achieved, he only did us good.
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..in more recent times..Martin Luther the King..and JFK are people I enjoy reading about....
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Joseph Rowntree,
'' In connection with Religious, Political and Social work, it is to be remembered that there may be no better way of advancing the objects one has at heart than to strengthen the hands of those who are effectively doing the work that needs to be done. Not unfrequently one hears of persons doing excellent work whose service is cramped, or who are in danger of breaking down through anxiety about the means of living. It would be quite in accordance with my wish that cases of this kind be assisted…."

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'' The love of money as a possession — as distinguished from the love of money as a means to the enjoyments and realities of life — will be recognised for what it is, a somewhat disgusting morbidity, one of those semi-criminal, semi-pathological propensities which one hands over with a shudder to the specialists in mental disease ... But beware! The time for all this is not yet. For at least another hundred years we must pretend to ourselves and to everyone that fair is foul and foul is fair; for foul is useful and fair is not. Avarice and usury and precaution must be our gods for a little longer still''
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A bump to give you my favourite three historical figures right now:



Duke of Norfolk in Henry VIII's time, a right belligerent asshole who ripped it out of everyone lower than him but also a quality government workhorse



Richard Cromwell, 8 short months as Protector but very underrated all things considered



Arthur Heslirige, great speaker and an unwavering republican. Bit of a nob personality wise but he had fun
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Top three (There are so many I would like to mmet/admire/find awful but fascinating.

Jesus of Nazereth
Boudicca
Richard of York (111)
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trust you Kyle,did he have a pet hedgehog? For me it would be Charles Dickens,Florence Nightingale and John F Kennedy.
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