[Cherie]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

Why is Farage an ass Cherie?

I think leaving the EU would be a huge mistake for business and he wants me deported

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Cherie

I think leaving the EU would be a huge mistake for business and he wants me deported

How does he want you deported?

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

How does he want you deported?

I'm joking Kirk, though I think his stance on immigration is bordering on xenophobic, I would fully support a no benefits rule for a period.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Cherie

I'm joking Kirk, though I think his stance on immigration is bordering on xenophobic, I would fully support a no benefits rule for a period.

Oh... You had me. I am the son of one immigrant (mixed marriage) but I really do not believe that Farage's views on immigration are xenophobic.

With anything in life, whether it be alcohol, food, gambling, sex, immigration or simply drinking water - moderation is far more beneficial than excess, but no one is advocating complete cessation.

I do not wish to expound here, but our 'Open Door' policy on immigration is an unmitigated disaster for this country and needs 'moderating'. Up to now Farage is the only one who has had the guts to address this issue - even though Cameron and the others are now 'jumping on the bandwagon' and filching Farage's propositions.

Do not fall for the 'scare-mongering' Cherie, think about what Farage is REALLY saying not what others want us to believe he is saying.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

I did not mean you personally Joey which is why I stated; "Do Labour supporters...etc", but perhaps I should have laboured that point(no pun intended) and I unreservedly apologise to you for my oversight.

I addressed it to you because - and this is sincere - to me you are the most honest, temperate, knowledgeable and intelligent of the labour supporters on here so I wanted your answer in particular because I knew it would not be needlessly vitriolic despite your passion. (Yet I have created true irony here.)

Anyway, I agree that you personally have condemned the personal attacks on all politicians but I stand firmly by my contention that there are double standards employed on here when it comes to decreeing the validity or otherwise of reportage.

I have always personally respected you and your informed opinions despite us being on opposite sides on political issues, and that will not change Joey.

I'm a Labour supporter and have never used personal attacks on politicians such as their looks, that is a pet hate of mine when I see it regularly on here.
Anyone can look back through my posts and note that like Joey have never stooped to personal or general attacks on any party when making a point.
'Do Labour supporters have double standards?' Personally I don't feel I do.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

I'm a Labour supporter and have never used personal attacks on politicians such as their looks, that is a pet hate of mine when I see it regularly on here.
Anyone can look back through my posts and note that like Joey have never stooped to personal or general attacks on any party when making a point.
'Do Labour supporters have double standards?' Personally I don't feel I do.

I don't dispute what you say regarding 'personal attacks', but my post was not specifically concerned with this element, but more reportage in general.

What I really meant was; that when an article favours Labour - no matter if it is disputed or refuted - it is quoted as gospel, but yet, this article regarding what Nicola Sturgeon has allegedly said as been dismissed out of hand.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

I don't dispute what you say regarding 'personal attacks', but my post was not specifically concerned with this element, but more reportage in general.

What I really meant was; that when an article favours Labour - no matter if it is disputed or refuted - it is quoted as gospel, but yet, this article regarding what Nicola Sturgeon has allegedly said as been dismissed out of hand.

You specifically targeted Labour supporters in your post and specifically said that these are needlessly vitriolic.
That in the context of these threads is untrue, I'm concerned by that element.
I can only speak personally, that I have not noticed any disparity here. Nicola Sturgeon has been vindicated due to the fact she personally refutes the comment, the person she had the conversation with does also,and there is no evidence to the contrary.