[Bells]

Perhaps people would rather have seen her be punished a different way. But 922 isn't many, to be fair. I've said this a few times, but I'll say it again - I think things would have been a lot more difficult for Emily had she stayed in the house. For one thing, I wouldn't be feeling sympathy for her. And I'm pretty confident that a great deal more complaints would've been received had she stayed as opposed to gone on the basis of what she said.

For Emily's own good, IMO, it was lucky that BB took immediate action and removed her before any more was said, and the situation could be put aside.

[Turrican]

Originally posted by Lance
Just can't win nowadays.

Imagine the complaints if she hadn't been removed.

probably a hell-load more. Consider that 46,000 people complained about Jade calling Shilpa a popadom behind her back. Emily called Charley a N****ER to her FACE!.

If C4 didnt remove Emily the entire show would be closed, I am 100% sure of that.

Those people complaining that she was removed are probably just BNP supporters.

[cgimusic]

68 to 922. Good for Emily. She should never have been evicted.

[James_15]

Thats not many complaints atall if u think about it

[Turrican]

not many complaints at all, 4,600,000 people watched.. only a thousand complained.

I think most people like me loved every single second of watching that brat squirm in her seat, regretting her racist little mouth ever opened.

She was so confident she would win this BB too. Karma.

[Sticks]

Originally posted by Turrican
Those people complaining that she was removed are probably just BNP supporters.

I find that offensive

I have always sort to remove BNP posters and stickers whenever I could, yet I am uneasy about how Channel 4 acted here.

I have not contacted Ofcom, but it is comments like that may make people more reticent in complaining.

Now regarding numbers, there is an old rule of thumb that for every letter or phone call to the media, it is taken that there is 10,000 others, of the same opinion who did not get to complain (It may be 50k but lets just be conservative here)

1000 calls
922 (92%) objected to her removal
68 (7%) supporting the descision


Are you going to write off 92% as all BNP / NF members? That sounds like one of the old soviet states here and is dangerous.

The incident happened

There was no hatred or perceived victimisation as there was in CBB.

The HM's were dealing with it

The event did not appear on the live feed, so it was C4 who put this in the public domain. This could have been handled in a much more discreet manner. Talking with Charlie, to whom this was directed, Nikky a witness and then Emmiley, who one suspects would not repeat the offence. C4 then could have just not broadcast this, or flagged it

The N word now has been broadcast far and wide, when it could have been denied the oxygen of publicity that C4 chose to give it.

[officialleafan]

I get the feeling this could be the last series of Big brother!

[officialleafan]

Sorry if it's been posted!!!

Nearly 1,000 Big Brother fans have contacted Channel 4 to complain about its ejection of Emily Parr from the reality show.

The broadcaster said 922 phone calls and emails had been received by 2pm today saying that she should have remained on the show. An additional 68 viewers had praised Channel 4 over its handling of the affair.

Some viewers have apparently registered concerns with the broadcaster that Parr is being used as a scapegoat as Channel 4 seeks to be seen to coming down hard on such behaviour, and are concerned the matter will brand her "something that she may well not be."

Despite 270 people having now complained to Ofcom about the channel's decision to broadcast the word "n****r" uncensored, the channel has received no complaints about this directly.

Channel 4 has cancelled tonight's eviction vote which was due to feature Parr and Shabnam Paryani.

[Slezer]

I feel BB had no other choice than to kick her out. Harsh but it was the only option.

[officialleafan]

I couldn't agree more!

[ryanaldinho10]

Originally posted by Slezer
I feel BB had no other choice than to kick her out. Harsh but it was the only option.

I agree, there would have been even more complaints if she had stayed in, plus we would have had to put up with GMTV slagging it off for weeks, this way it can all be forgotten, especially after two new housemates go in tonight! YAY!

[~SAMZ~]

I think they had to kick her out after cbb. If they hadnt kicked her out i would imagine there would of been alot more than 1000 complaints

[officialleafan]

I miss Emily. SHe was a good housemate!

[GabrielleisLove]

It's disheartening to know there are some people who disagree with this descision. It must be her mates and family.

[Slezer]

Just because certain rappers use the word doesnt automatically make it okay. It was said in a weird way aswell.

[Cody™]

this is a load of rubbish. people obviously have alot of time on their hands lol..

if they hadnt have thrown her out the house then its would have generated far more complaints.

i think channel 4 would rather get complaints for gettin rid of her, rather than complaints for keeping her.

[marky]

I'm sorry but I don't care if she used the 'N' word in a good way, she needed to be kicked from the house. Remember what happened in Celeb BB? The racisim there went on enough, did she NOT see or read what happened in there? I'm sure she did!

The coment she made was deliberate and calculated, BB done the right thing.

There is NO room on TV for people or remarks like that. I have members of my family that are black and I can't EVER imagine calling any of them a N****R, even as a joke

[Turrican]

Originally posted by Sticks

I find that offensive

I have always sort to remove BNP posters and stickers whenever I could, yet I am uneasy about how Channel 4 acted here.

I have not contacted Ofcom, but it is comments like that may make people more reticent in complaining.

Now regarding numbers, there is an old rule of thumb that for every letter or phone call to the media, it is taken that there is 10,000 others, of the same opinion who did not get to complain (It may be 50k but lets just be conservative here)

1000 calls
922 (92%) objected to her removal
68 (7%) supporting the descision


Are you going to write off 92% as all BNP / NF members? That sounds like one of the old soviet states here and is dangerous.

The incident happened

There was no hatred or perceived victimisation as there was in CBB.

The HM's were dealing with it

The event did not appear on the live feed, so it was C4 who put this in the public domain. This could have been handled in a much more discreet manner. Talking with Charlie, to whom this was directed, Nikky a witness and then Emmiley, who one suspects would not repeat the offence. C4 then could have just not broadcast this, or flagged it

The N word now has been broadcast far and wide, when it could have been denied the oxygen of publicity that C4 chose to give it.

Only problem with your maths here is that many polls have been done online already which go in favour of what C4 did. And adding imaginery numbers to the hard facts is just silly now. So we can totally dismiss what you've said there.

You cannot compare what happened in CBB with what happened here. In CBB (although I HATED what Jade and Co. did) nobody actually called her a pa*i to her face did they?

Emily called Charley a Ni**er to her FACE! A word with deeply hurtful meaning behind it.

So, yes I will say it again - those very few minority who rang up and complained that C4 kicked emily out: I say those people are as bad as her. And we all know what she is now and her family are quite rightly disowning her (apparantly).

[Sticks]

Originally posted by Slezer
I feel BB had no other choice than to kick her out. Harsh but it was the only option.

Er no

This could have been kept under wraps as the HM's likely to be effected had been dealing with it and it was a totally different situation from before. C4 chose to put it into the public domain, as the incident was never on the live feed. It need never have been shown and we would not be giving air time to an offensive word.

As a side point here, just so there is no TOS violation with the hosting company for TIBB, could you please refer to it as the N word and not spell it out?

[Turrican]

Originally posted by Sticks

Er no

This could have been kept under wraps as the HM's likely to be effected had been dealing with it and it was a totally different situation from before. C4 chose to put it into the public domain, as the incident was never on the live feed. It need never have been shown and we would not be giving air time to an offensive word.

As a side point here, just so there is no TOS violation with the hosting company for TIBB, could you please refer to it as the N word and not spell it out?

I was going to agree with you until I thought a little harder and realised something. Something which BB probably realised also: Charley is a LOUD MOUTH! I don't think Charley and Nicky could have resisted telling everyone what Emily had said and it would have been a big part of the show for at least a day - what would BB be showing on the highlights if not for this N word drama ? I'm not sure if they had any other choice when you really think about it.

[ttw]

Originally posted by Sticks

Er no

This could have been kept under wraps as the HM's likely to be effected had been dealing with it and it was a totally different situation from before. C4 chose to put it into the public domain, as the incident was never on the live feed. It need never have been shown and we would not be giving air time to an offensive word.

As a side point here, just so there is no TOS violation with the hosting company for TIBB, could you please refer to it as the N word and not spell it out?

Who are you to say the HM were dealing with it.
Charley and Nikki were still up at 3am talking about it and Charley was clearly affected by the comment.

[Lil-Lindz]

just think of the number of complaints BB would have recieved if she had of stayed, BB only had two options and they choose the right option

[Sticks]

Originally posted by Turrican


Only problem with your maths here is that many polls have been done online already which go in favour of what C4 did. And adding imaginery numbers to the hard facts is just silly now. So we can totally dismiss what you've said there.

You cannot compare what happened in CBB with what happened here. In CBB (although I HATED what Jade and Co. did) nobody actually called her a pa*i to her face did they?

Emily called Charley a Ni**er to her FACE! A word with deeply hurtful meaning behind it.

So, yes I will say it again - those very few minority who rang up and complained that C4 kicked emily out:

I say those people are as bad as her.

So when is the tarring and feathering going to take place ?

In the other case it was alleged that it was done behind Shilpa's back, does that make it ok, if it happened.

Originally posted by Turrican

And we all know what she is now and her family are quite rightly disowning her (apparantly).

Can you supply a source for this please?

From your tone here it sounds like you would like her to be publicly executed, so the question is guillotine, firing squad electric chair? - Get real please

Have you never said the wrong thing by error?

Why are you personalizing it?

This is real racism

Getting back to polls and numbers, it is well established that people will always answer pollsters in the way they think is the correct way. Online polls are also less accurate, because all you have to do is clear your cookies and vote again, skewing the result even more.

These complaints represent real data, and the "imaginary" numbers are a rule of thumb I got from someone who is the editor of a inhouse church magazine who has experience in this field, which gives editors an estimate of real public opinion.

Just because we may say hang on a moment, does that mean we must be ignored?

When the boy pointed out that the emperor had no clothes, was he vilified?

[Amy21]

I cant believe ther complaints about this. Big Brother dealt with his quickly so there isnt anything to complain about. And I dont think anyone should stick up for Emily saying she was wrongly evicted when she broke the rules. You break the rules you suffer the consequences you dotn get away with things you do.

[easypeasy]

Well said Stix, +1.