[Foebane100]

Victor used the word many times and nothing was said.
If black people want it labeled rascist they should stop using this themselves.
After seeing a young rapper go through all the British history of slavery and come out the other end and very sheepishly say he would never use N again and would discourage others from doing so.

[Fanboy_Luke]

It was a derived from the word negro and was a very derogatory word that was used to describe negro slaves.

Negro is the spanish/portuguese for black so I don't see what point your making. Don't use the word myself but surely it's all about the CONTEXT. Somebody using a word that can be used as a racist slur (but also colloquial greeting and a form of identity; see N.W.A.) is not necessarily racist depending on its context. Racism is a MINDSET and ATTITUDE. You have every right to find the word repugnant but there are so many black people who have really embraced the word.

For the record, Emily should have kept her mouth shut. It's a can of worms we really could have done without opening.

[MarkWaldorf]

Originally posted by Foebane100
Victor used the work many times and nothing was said.
If black people want it labeled rascist they should stop using this themselves.
After seeing a young rapper go through all the British history of slavery and come out the other end and very sheepishly say he would never use N again and would discourage others from doing so.

I completely agree. Like GiRTh said, it's only seen as racist if it's said by a white person, which is pathetic.

[Bells]

Is that what he said? I think whoever says it is in the wrong, depending upon the context and the person.

[Fanboy_Luke]

I've explained this in another thread but basically when a black person uses the word he is basically someone a fool or an idiot.

That actually IS offensive and derogatory (as is that Chris Rock routine which is ****ing hilarious). That is more double standards than in the context I usually hear it, a synonymn for 'friend' eg "my n*ggaz".

[stoney12]

I agree with sticks on this.C4 have finally got their scapegoat for the whole of last Januarys uproar.

The way this is reporetd the wprd was not used in a derogative tone,more in the slang of the day.Black people have tried to reclaim the word in rap exactly to turn its meaning on its head.

It was 3.30 in the morning , the sound was edited.A private warning in the diary room , would have sufficed.

Instead its all blown out of proportion and c4 know tonights ratings will go through the roof and they can feel all warm again.

In this case c4 are wrong to punish so harshly.In January they were wrong to not punish.

[Nicola]

Yeah I find that particular word offensive towards coloured people and was discouraged from using it as soon as I'd heard it and learned what it meant. I think that after CBB5 (Jade/Shilpa) Big Brother was right to intervene quickly before it got out of hand, even if the word wasn't used in that particular context it could easily have been blown out of proportion and once again become a national issue if nothing had been done about it.

[missbling]

then again if c4 didnt do anything bout it they would get critised like last time emily should have know better n it was only right she got punished

[BigBrotherFan..*]

It was a reallllyyy bad word .. but i think that emily didnt mean it in a racist way! and if charley said it why isnt she thrown out aswell .... or at least warned !!

[Tanser_Man]

If it was wrong, Charley would have been offended.

She wasn't.

[easypeasy]

Originally posted by Tanser_Man
If it was wrong, Charley would have been offended.

She wasn't.

but i bet her mum and dad, and thousands of black viewers would be cringing to hear it from lil miss white middle class's lips.

[Captain.Remy]

I didn't know the translation in french of this word, now I know it and even in France it's offensive to say that ! It's terrible something like that ! Emily should have been more careful, even if for her it was a joke, imagine all black viewer watching that...it's not great ! But I still think she didn't deserve that, a warning for sure but not an expulsion !

[GhettoSuperstar]

It's disgusting.
She is disgusting.

[topboy]

Emily was wrong to use it - but it wasn't meant in any racist way..the reaction from BB has done nothing to improve the situation. Education is the key - not expulsion.

Anyone think that BB / Endomol / C4 spotted a very quick ratings winner and an incredible 'PR' opportunity here?

It's been a poor start to BB8 (lots of people not liking the overwhelming female house - and this is a great way for them to regain the viewers.

Watch tonights ratings...

[topboy]

..and tomorrow's press coverage!

[nodisharmony]

Emily said it in a joking way, so they say???

As we only have the transcript, it looks that way. But seeing & hearing is much better, of course.

The "N" word is considered to be a Racist word.

Emily is NOT a racist housemate, however, in that moment of madness, it just popped out of her mouth.

Accidentally.






nodisharmony

[Fanboy_Luke]

What's Charley going on about? How on earth is using "N*gga" as term of endearment is more offensive than being called a "black bitch"? I don't understand the mentality that if Emily says it all the time that somehow makes it worse. Surely if she calls her black friends "n*ggas" it helps to explain why she dwas comfortable with saying it. I've been starting to respect Charley the last couple of days but she is being totally hypocritical over the incident.

[MaDdOctoR]

Originally posted by SirLukeofStamp
What's Charley going on about? How on earth is using "N*gga" as term of endearment is more offensive than being called a "black bitch"? I don't understand the mentality that if Emily says it all the time that somehow makes it worse. Surely if she calls her black friends "n*ggas" it helps to explain why she dwas comfortable with saying it. I've been starting to respect Charley the last couple of days but she is being totally hypocritical over the incident.

that whole debate the housemates had seemed very much like some of them saw an opportunity to get public votes......

plus charley saying she would never use that word made me quite angry.....as she HAS used that word......quite a few times.

dOc

[ttw]

Originally posted by nodisharmony
Emily said it in a joking way, so they say???

As we only have the transcript, it looks that way. But seeing & hearing is much better, of course.

The "N" word is considered to be a Racist word.

Emily is NOT a racist housemate, however, in that moment of madness, it just popped out of her mouth.

Accidentally.






nodisharmony

uh, yeh it is a racist word.

lol "moment of madness" - it all seemed pretty calm to me. what are you on about

[MaDdOctoR]

Originally posted by Ash
I think whoever says it is in the wrong

so why are Charley and Nikki still there?
(any use of that word....even in discussion is not acceptable)

Originally posted by Ash
depending upon the context and the person.

so are you saying that it's fine for a black and asian person to say the word.....and not a white person.....

[MaDdOctoR]

Originally posted by ttw

uh, yeh it is a racist word.

lol "moment of madness" - it all seemed pretty calm to me. what are you on about

moment of madness = she thought she was with her friends

[Lil-Lindz]

Even if the word was used descriptively or whatever it shouldnt be used at all, its a horrible word and it shouldn't be used even if you know the person, and especially if you hardly know them

[ttw]

Originally posted by MaDdOctoR

moment of madness = she thought she was with her friends

Even if she as with her friends, it still wouldn't be ok.

And, how do you know she thought she was with her friends. Because i think she was well aware she was in the BB house.

[GiRTh]

Who's to say she has black friends anyway.

[ttw]

Originally posted by GiRTh
Who's to say she has black friends anyway.

She said in the diary room when explaining she wasn't racist that she has black friends.

She thinks "black people are great"

the amount of times i've heard that line "im not racist, i have black friends" - its a classic