[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

I thought I was clear

I said unions were no longer relevant. Workers rights are of course still relevant. In today's day and age, there are much more effective methods of ensuring workers rights than through unions. That's my point

No you weren't, what are these methods, there is ACAS, and there are unions how could that model be improved upon?

[bots]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

No you weren't, what are these methods, there is ACAS, and there are unions how could that model be improved upon?

acas is probably the most ineffectual organisation ever. Anyone that has ever tried to use it will know what I am talking about.

Unions are now almost completely ineffectual too. They were created for an era where workers really did have no voice against the ruling upper classes.

It is not the same environment now. I'm not saying I have the answers, I am saying in this modern day, there are better methods of ensuring fair play. At the end of the day, fair play on both sides, is what its all about.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

acas is probably the most ineffectual organisation ever. Anyone that has ever tried to use it will know what I am talking about.

Unions are now almost completely ineffectual too. They were created for an era where workers really did have no voice against the ruling upper classes.

It is not the same environment now. I'm not saying I have the answers, I am saying in this modern day, there are better methods of ensuring fair play. At the end of the day, fair play on both sides, is what its all about.

Take away ACAS tribunals and the unions and what voice would workers have in the modern day?
How is that progressive, all there will be is some blog or vlog that the media ( if they choose to report any protest at all) will suggest is sour grapes by some ineffectual or insubordinate ex employees.

[arista]

A Builder speaking on Radio 5
before 9AM
was talking about 3-D Printed homes

Technicians used
No Fecking Union


Bring It On Fella

[letmein]

arista, start posting on one line.

[the truth]

ive joined a few unions, they helped me get some crucial medical documents one time....ive also joined small medium business organisations who have helped with legal help etc I think the future regulating these corporations is a massive challenge...however I think vat is a key issue to the whole economy and to how powerful these monopolies and cartels become. the next labour leader must target vat from day 1 with the view to totally abolishing it within a decade...trust me VAT is THE single biggest economic issue of them all

[the truth]

Originally Posted by letmein

arista, start posting on one line.

Arista has a capital A