[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Cherie

But putting it in context Jaxie, if all this happened while they were alone in the bedroom it would be creepy and horrible, as it was it was being played out by a drunk Aaron clapped on by some of the house alphas in a fully lit bedroom with 40 cameras on them, there was no danger or malicious intent, He thought he was being funny and entertaining, if anyone had stepped up to the plate and asked him to stop, including Joel he would have

..but there again Cherie, if you flip it and the same situation with a large group of people all staying and sleeping in the same space etc but not on TV...and laughing/encouraging a misjudged situation through the fuel of alcohol etc...and Joel feeling uncomfortable but having a 'reaction' of laughter as well but also saying 'don't to the situation..just a 'collective' moment for all of them...and there not being cameras and a BB voice asking Aaron to come into the DR so diffusing it...that would never be an acceptable situation ...and would it then have become much, much more uncomfortable without a 'TV show' situation and the voice of BB....

[Cherie]

I really see little value in equating this situation to real life as it is a controlled environment or even the "insert female" into the equation, you could also flip it and ask if a female had been in Aaron's position would she have been slung out, I am judging on what I saw, what I know of Joels and Aarons personality from past encounters with HMs, and the part the other HMs took in escalating the situation.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Cherie

I really see little value in equating this situation to real life as it is a controlled environment or even the "insert female" into the equation, you could also flip it and ask if a female had been in Aaron's position would she have been slung out, I am judging on what I saw, what I know of Joels and Aarons personality from past encounters with HMs, and the part the other HMs took in escalating the situation.

..I agree that it makes no difference to the sexes of the housemate's involved Cherie and the laughter/all a joke situation was completely escalated by the other housemates of course but Joel also said 'don't' 'stop' 'please stop' etc several times with that laughter...if all had just been laughter and only laughter then it may give a different impression to Aaron but in any situation like that and regardless of place/time etc the words of importance were said and should have been heard..(by all housemates as well..) which were asking Aaron to stop and he didn't because he wasn't listening to Joel, all he was hearing was laughter...and a laughter which sadly effected his judgement...if there was any playing up type thing I think it was him doing it and ignoring Joel's pleas for him to stop...