[Pete.]

Sam Pepper

[Daniel.]

It's a myth that Makosi and Nadia were different in UBB, Nadia was always that hot headed and Makosi was still as weird as before just less loud

[LukeB]

Hira wasn't that boring, I mean she won an award for being entertaining. She made me laugh quite a lot really. Hira being evicted was so awful </3 should have been Lisa

[Lostie!]

Speaking of BB10, it reminds me of another: David should have won out of the final 5.

I warmed to Sophie in the second half, after her gang had all but been broken up, but in the first half she was still a firm member of BB10's self-satisfied "in crowd". The best thing that happened to her was that clique being dismantled, I honestly think she'd have never gained as much support as she did if the likes of Kris and Karly stuck around for much longer.

[Macie Lightfoot]

no it shouldn't have been Lisa

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Macie Lightfoot

no it shouldn't have been Lisa

who should it have been then?

[Macie Lightfoot]

Originally Posted by LukeB

who should it have been then?

Freddie, Marcus, or Siavash

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Macie Lightfoot

Freddie, Marcus, or Siavash

I was being realistic on a vote to save tbh

tbh that eviction should have been vote to evict Hira had a lot more to give

[Marsh.]

I don't think they attempted to be more upmarket in the slightest. It's still trashy.

They just tried to focus more on actual Big Brother focussed discussion rather than on irrelevant sketches and stuff. Which they still do but have cut down on. I'm all for that.

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

I don't think they attempted to be more upmarket in the slightest. It's still trashy.

They just tried to focus more on actual Big Brother focussed discussion rather than on irrelevant sketches and stuff. Which they still do but have cut down on. I'm all for that.

They got rid of the spunking dog, they got rid of showing three clips at the top of the show which were double entendres, they stopped making references in every link to sex, the list goes on. Part of the appeal of BOTS was how trashy it was, it isn't anymore. It's far more focused on content (although now with random games thrown in which makes it more like BBLB) and it's a shame. The spin off show should be trashy, it should be irreverent. It was at its height in BB13 and while I still watch it it's nowhere near as funny as it once was

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Jack_

They got rid of the spunking dog, they got rid of showing three clips at the top of the show which were double entendres, they stopped making references in every link to sex, the list goes on. Part of the appeal of BOTS was how trashy it was, it isn't anymore. It's far more focused on content (although now with random games thrown in which makes it more like BBLB) and it's a shame. The spin off show should be trashy, it should be irreverent. It was at its height in BB13 and while I still watch it it's nowhere near as funny as it once was

That's exactly what I said, they removed most stuff which didn't directly correspond to discussing Big Brother like drag queens, sketches, spunking dogs, Jamie's little bits etc. They have much less of it now but it doesn't make the show less trashy. It's not upmarket in the slightest.

Also, making reference in EVERY link to sex? That got old after 2 episodes. 3 years on I should think the show is trying something else.

[bbfan1991]

Nush was my favourite BB4 housemate.

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

That's exactly what I said, they removed most stuff which didn't directly correspond to discussing Big Brother like drag queens, sketches, spunking dogs, Jamie's little bits etc. They have much less of it now but it doesn't make the show less trashy. It's not upmarket in the slightest.

I disagree, by 'upmarket' I don't mean Newsnight but a lot more serious than it once was, which is to its detriment IMO.

I would argue the main show is more trashy than BOTS is now when it used to be the other way round, and I used to prefer BOTS to the actual show

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Jack_

I disagree, by 'upmarket' I don't mean Newsnight but a lot more serious than it once was, which is to its detriment IMO.

I would argue the main show is more trashy than BOTS is now when it used to be the other way round, and I used to prefer BOTS to the actual show

Oh no I know you didn't mean that. I thought you meant in the "classy" sense. But it's still a bottom of the barrel companion show.

[Marsh.]

On the Toya stuff though, I remember being completely confused by her in week 1.

She was like quiet for 3 days, sat in the background in her nightgown picking her spots and then suddenly she came out mouthing off with "You're not listening to me! You're actually not listening to me!!!" and I was like

[Pete.]

Kris was an awful bully and was only let off because he was a pretty boy

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Petemitch

Kris was an awful bully and was only let off because he was a pretty boy

Thankfully I have no memory of such an irrelevant blip in BB history.

[reece(:]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Thankfully I have no memory of such an irrelevant blip in BB history.

I don't remember ha [2]

[Pete.]

How did Siavash come 2nd he was such a lame housemate

[Marsh.]

Orlaith should never have gone in. She added NOTHING.

[Pete.]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Orlaith should never have gone in. She added NOTHING.

She screaming at Science and snogging Craig in the pool () disagrees

[Daniel.]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Orlaith should never have gone in. She added NOTHING.

She had an iconic rivalry with Derek and Kemal

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Daniel_

She had an iconic rivalry with Derek and Kemal

Which consisted of her constantly whining because she just wanted to lie in the middle of the garden posing on her towel.

[reece(:]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Orlaith should never have gone in. She added NOTHING.

Kinga was robbed

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by reece(:

Kinga was robbed