[bbfan1991]

When Simon was ostracized from the group, which she was happy to be part of. I don't agree with what they did to her with the whole nominations business, but at least she got a taste of how Simon felt when the house was against him.

[hannah.]

I agree. I think we'll see Simon come out of his shell again now too, which I'm glad of because I've warmed to him a bit (from not seeing him at all lol)

[Niamh.]

I don't like to watch anyone feel ostracised like that but yes you do have a point

[just thinkin]

i think its gone way beyond that - simon wasn't ostracized away from the others - he pretended he was. just like he has been pretending since he went in there.

I don't like simon- he's sly and slimy. I might have had a bit of respect for him if he had stood up at that table and told helen that she had the story wrong, when helen was gunning for harry about his washing..... he didn't - he sat and watched while helen went through harry for a short-cut. Harry had gone out of her way for him if you remember the diary entry a few days back - she was surprised he had nominated her as she did a lot of things for him...remember. Pity he wasn't man enough to return the favor. A horrible little excuse for a man this guy.

[Lostie!]

Originally Posted by just thinkin

i think its gone way beyond that - simon wasn't ostracized away from the others - he pretended he was. just like he has been pretending since he went in there.

I don't like simon- he's sly and slimy. I might have had a bit of respect for him if he had stood up at that table and told helen that she had the story wrong, when helen was gunning for harry about his washing..... he didn't - he sat and watched while helen went through harry for a short-cut. Harry had gone out of her way for him if you remember the diary entry a few days back - she was surprised he had nominated her as she did a lot of things for him...remember. Pity he wasn't man enough to return the favor. A horrible little excuse for a man this guy.

Return the favour? As the OP says, Harry was perfectly happy to go along with the anti-Simon bandwagon to curry favour with the other originals, and there was no pretence that he was a bit of a pariah in the house. He was.

That said, I feel sorry for Harry to regarding this ridiculous "Aww, poor Nick" business.

[bitontheslide]

Ostracising someone is never the right solution whether it be on BB or in real life. On BB, all it will do is bring Harry a sympathy vote she would not normally have received. Harry is not stupid and she will capitalise on it too. The important thing to remember on BB is that no-one is ever truly ostracised, they can always go and have a chat with BB any time they choose, no matter how miserable they may appear

[Liam-]

I personally still don't think that Harry is being ostracised, no-one is making her sit on her own, she's choosing to, Danny tried to bring her back into the group, Nick tried to bring her back into the group, so she's obviously wanted there, she's choosing to take herself away from everyone.

[Nancy.]

But she isn't being ostracised, she's doing it herself. She had the chance to go and talk to the new housemates and she said "no, I don't care, they can come talk to me", but because they didn't speak to her, she went and sulked and basically told the people that care about her to Piss-off. She's her own worst enemy.

[Nancy.]

Originally Posted by Liam-

I personally still don't think that Harry is being ostracised, no-one is making her sit on her own, she's choosing to, Danny tried to bring her back into the group, Nick tried to bring her back into the group, so she's obviously wanted there, she's choosing to take herself away from everyone.

This!!!

[just thinkin]

Originally Posted by Lostie!

Return the favour? As the OP says, Harry was perfectly happy to go along with the anti-Simon bandwagon to curry favour with the other originals, and there was no pretence that he was a bit of a pariah in the house. He was.

That said, I feel sorry for Harry to regarding this ridiculous "Aww, poor Nick" business.

but unlike the other housemates harry always made sure he was okay, did his cleaning, cooking, and wiping his ass for him. did you not watch the diary room after he nominated her. she was far better to him than the others. but hey, why remember these things when the attack is on.

[just thinkin]

Originally Posted by Nancy Littlebottom

But she isn't being ostracised, she's doing it herself. She had the chance to go and talk to the new housemates and she said "no, I don't care, they can come talk to me", but because they didn't speak to her, she went and sulked and basically told the people that care about her to Piss-off. She's her own worst enemy.

no... she's not a lick'a*se. There's a difference.

Funny then as mark calls them all bum lickers - yet the one that has proven she's not a bum-licker, he hates, for that very same reason.

[sampvt]

She is looking for the sympathy vote and its looking like it might work based on public opinion. These guys this year know how to milk it don't they.

[Nancy.]

Originally Posted by just thinkin

no... she's not a lick'a*se. There's a difference.

Funny then as mark calls them all bum lickers - yet the one that has proven she's not a bum-licker, he hates, for that very same reason.

Erm, she arselicked the original's the second she went in. She made a bee-line for Nick (because she knew he was popular), she jumped on the bandwagon and picked on Simon at every opportunity, she desperately tries to shoe-horn herself in with the original housemates (to keep them onside). The only people she doesn't arselick is Marc, Sam and Simon. Funny that.

[just thinkin]

Originally Posted by Nancy Littlebottom

Erm, she arselicked the original's the second she went in. She made a bee-line for Nick (because she knew he was popular), she jumped on the bandwagon and picked on Simon at every opportunity, she desperately tries to shoe-horn herself in with the original housemates (to keep them onside). The only people she doesn't arselick is Marc, Sam and Simon. Funny that.

ya, quite funny that you should see it like that. I don't . She's her own person - has proven that time again.. just because marc says it, doesn't make it true, as we all know.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Liam-

I personally still don't think that Harry is being ostracised, no-one is making her sit on her own, she's choosing to, Danny tried to bring her back into the group, Nick tried to bring her back into the group, so she's obviously wanted there, she's choosing to take herself away from everyone.

Yeah that's true. No one has pushed her out. Helen and Marc really are the only ones who wouldn't talk to her or who would be rude to her. Brian has tried with her and all the other HMs would talk to her

[albie]

Doesn't matter. Simon will be out next. Harry won't be nominated again.

[the truth]

great post. simon has been excluded and alienated for weeks. harry is just after self pity again, shes a cold vile man hater who uses all men for material gain as shes disgustingly admited

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Liam-

I personally still don't think that Harry is being ostracised, no-one is making her sit on her own, she's choosing to, Danny tried to bring her back into the group, Nick tried to bring her back into the group, so she's obviously wanted there, she's choosing to take herself away from everyone.

Exactly this.

She's playing a game and the whole recent nominations and legends thing is enabling her to ramp it up to the max.

[Patricia4]

Its all a show she wants the other's to run round saying come on your OK she's seeking attention.

[sosadbbend]

Originally Posted by bbfan1991

When Simon was ostracized from the group, which she was happy to be part of. I don't agree with what they did to her with the whole nominations business, but at least she got a taste of how Simon felt when the house was against him.

Simon ostracized himself by being two faced and sneaky! Helen hasn't done anything wrong in my eyes.

[LeatherTrumpet]

she is one spiteful controlling bitch

[Macie Lightfoot]

Originally Posted by Josy

Exactly this.

She's playing a game and the whole recent nominations and legends thing is enabling her to ramp it up to the max.

Or maybe she's, I don't know, upset about the situation???

[jennyjuniper]

Originally Posted by just thinkin

i think its gone way beyond that - simon wasn't ostracized away from the others - he pretended he was. just like he has been pretending since he went in there.

I don't like simon- he's sly and slimy. I might have had a bit of respect for him if he had stood up at that table and told helen that she had the story wrong, when helen was gunning for harry about his washing..... he didn't - he sat and watched while helen went through harry for a short-cut. Harry had gone out of her way for him if you remember the diary entry a few days back - she was surprised he had nominated her as she did a lot of things for him...remember. Pity he wasn't man enough to return the favor. A horrible little excuse for a man this guy.

Just as Harry is pretending she is being ostracised from the others. It's her own doing.

[jennyjuniper]

Originally Posted by just thinkin

no... she's not a lick'a*se. There's a difference.

Funny then as mark calls them all bum lickers - yet the one that has proven she's not a bum-licker, he hates, for that very same reason.

She is a mega bum licker, just not Marc's.