[JerseyWins]

I thought this was a great premiere episode. Interesting characters so far. But knew I'd dislike Audrey... annoying already.

However, wtf @ BOTB being back? I didn't think it was bad but seriously, not worth bringing back. Oh well. The cast and the other twists have caught my interest so far.

[Mokka]

Originally Posted by JerseyWins

I thought this was a great premiere episode. Interesting characters so far. But knew I'd dislike Audrey... annoying already.

However, wtf @ BOTB being back? I didn't think it was bad but seriously, not worth bringing back. Oh well. The cast and the other twists have caught my interest so far.

Why did you dislike Audrey, how was she annoying

[JerseyWins]

Originally Posted by Mokka

Why did you dislike Audrey, how was she annoying

It's a slight annoyance towards her tbh but for a couple reasons. The main one is I hate when people literally have an agenda against the opposite sex, especially for the sake of a show like this. She actually didn't even say she wanted to win BB17 - her goal is for a girl to win, not for her to win. It's part of why I disliked Sarah in BBCAN3 and started disliking Bruno a bit towards the end, although in some fairness to him he was more retaliating against Sarah.

I liked the start of that all-girls alliance (not sure if it'll last this time but it has more potential than whatever that attempt was last season) just not Audrey and her mindset. It does seem to be the typical start the past 3(?) seasons now but Da'Vonne and Shelli were really likable that episode.


I also didn't like her DR's, including one point where she seemed pretty cold towards James when he won HOH. I don't remember exactly what she said but something minor that just came across a bit annoying to me after already being annoyed by her through the episode. She brought nothing that I liked besides being mildly annoying, similar to how she came across in the interviews. Seems stuck up and boring but was the center of attention (and I understand she will be but not excited about that). It's only been interviews and one episode but I just don't think I'll like her, I've gotten that kind of off-putting self-righteous vibe from her pretty consistently.

Although Jace, Da'Vonne, and Shelli were the only ones I could get behind so far and yet I still finished the episode thinking this'll be a great cast just cause of the very different personalities.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Originally Posted by JerseyWins

It's a slight annoyance towards her tbh but for a couple reasons. The main one is I hate when people literally have an agenda against the opposite sex, especially for the sake of a show like this. She actually didn't even say she wanted to win BB17 - her goal is for a girl to win, not for her to win. It's part of why I disliked Sarah in BBCAN3 and started disliking Bruno a bit towards the end, although in some fairness to him he was more retaliating against Sarah.

Okay but this is a show that is steeped in sexism and hasn't had a female win without the help of production in a literal decade, so good for Audrey for wanting to hold it down for the girls.

[JerseyWins]

Originally Posted by Macie Lightfoot

and hasn't had a female win without the help of production in a literal decade

So? That's just how it's played out and it shouldn't matter. Sure there have been a couple all-male alliances, and that should be fine anyway, but no one I can think of has had their target set on solely females. Maybe last year for a short period because 6 guys aligned together.

But no one ever specifically targeted the girls/guys and were playing the game for the purpose of a specific gender to win, just for themselves. Audrey's mindset on the other hand IS being sexist, not the "sexism" of simply a couple guys or a couple girls grouping together in the game.