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Rob! · 08-07-2015, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia

Joel thinks he's the cleverest person in there. He's smug, patronising and argumentative. I don't like him at all.

That's because he IS the cleverest person in there. By a LONG way.

Livia · 08-07-2015, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob!

That's because he IS the cleverest person in there. By a LONG way.

He thinks he is, certainly. Being the cleverest person in the room doesn't give you leave to patronise others. He tries to make them look small but it's actually he who ends up looking small.

jet · 08-07-2015, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob!

That's because he IS the cleverest person in there. By a LONG way.

Not clever enough to know when to stop interrogating and manipulating people therefore getting their backs up. He was one of my favourites but now we are seeing more of him I'm quickly doing a u turn.

Rob! · 08-07-2015, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia

He thinks he is, certainly. Being the cleverest person in the room doesn't give you leave to patronise others. He tries to make them look small but it's actually he who ends up looking small.

I don't think he can make someone look small when he's being told by Danny that he is "malipulative" when he's apparently heard the word for the first time five minutes previously.
Joel is one of the only honest ones in there - I think he would be better letting the politician inside of him quiten a bit but at this stage it doesn't look like it's going to happen.

Today · 08-07-2015, 12:47 PM

Of course he's the cleverest, that's why he's being outflanked by not so thick Nick!

Vanessa · 08-07-2015, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob!

I don't think he can make someone look small when he's being told by Danny that he is "malipulative" when he's apparently heard the word for the first time five minutes previously.
Joel is one of the only honest ones in there - I think he would be better letting the politician inside of him quiten a bit but at this stage it doesn't look like it's going to happen.

Danny can't even spell it.

just thinkin · 08-07-2015, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob!

That's because he IS the cleverest person in there. By a LONG way.

no he's not...he's not clever at all - he's selfish, devious, and horrible. Learning off ten different sentences to divert attention onto another human being to make yourself try to look clever, is not clever - he can't pull it off. Same with the various 'hand movements' does he spend all day looking at TV and aping policitions with their hand movements and head nods. its cringe not clever.

Today · 08-07-2015, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by just thinkin

no he's not...he's not clever at all - he's selfish, devious, and horrible. Learning off ten different sentences to divert attention onto another human being to make yourself try to look clever, is not clever - he can't pull it off. Same with the various 'hand movements' does he spend all day looking at TV and aping policitions with their hand movements and head nods. its cringe not clever.

If you watch you can see his whole persona is modeled on Jeremy Kyle, his questioning technique, poses, facial expression, hand gestures and posture. Did nobody see him practicing in the mirror prior to his "interview" task? It was cringeworthy.

The reason he can't pull it off is because he simply hasn't mastered forensic questioning techniques, because of this his "discussions" descend into argument directly with him, when his design is to create the argument without actually being part of it. That's his failure.

joeysteele · 08-07-2015, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob!

I don't think he can make someone look small when he's being told by Danny that he is "malipulative" when he's apparently heard the word for the first time five minutes previously.
Joel is one of the only honest ones in there - I think he would be better letting the politician inside of him quiten a bit but at this stage it doesn't look like it's going to happen.

I don't even think he tries to make anyone look small,they do it themselves because of how they go on.

He is naturally inquisitive,he maybe should tone down the 'interrogation and interviewing,however he will be used to that so feels comfortable with it.

I will take how he is any day over Danny with his violent tendencies,Harry with her hysterics, Nick with his little boy lost look but hiding a cold inside to him,Sam who will go from one to the other, agreeing with both while hearing completely different things.
Even now over Chloe with her spitefulness and the way she has been these last few nights.

I agree with you, Joel is one of the most honest in there and he is how he is,I actually think the criticism of him is unfair really.
However that is other perspectives but I see him as a good guy and I still commend what he has set out to do and done in life at only 19 years of age.