[Slezer]

nicky was looking fine on tonights show

[Jodie6]

why is it alright to slate a fat person on ere but not a black or gay person

[CharlotteSometimes]

Nobody has. Not in this thread, at least. Personally, I wouldn't mock or dislike a hm just because they're a little chubby, or overweight. But it's hardly in the same league as racism or homophobia, is it? You don't get many cases of gangs lurking around cake shops, waiting to beat up overweight people. And unless I've missed it, the BNP don't particularly care who ate all the pies (as long as they're white, of course). I'm not going to be stupid enough to suggest that weight loss is easy, but if you're overweight, it's possible to do something about it. And yes, that's people's own choice, rather than something which should be imposed on them. But the health benefits alone are pretty obvious. As for sexuality, you are what you are. You don't get any choice in the matter. And ditto ethnic origin (unless you're Michael Jackson).

[natjake2504]

lol

[Psylocke]

Originally posted by CharlotteSometimes
Nobody has. Not in this thread, at least. Personally, I wouldn't mock or dislike a hm just because they're a little chubby, or overweight. But it's hardly in the same league as racism or homophobia, is it? You don't get many cases of gangs lurking around cake shops, waiting to beat up overweight people. And unless I've missed it, the BNP don't particularly care who ate all the pies (as long as they're white, of course). I'm not going to be stupid enough to suggest that weight loss is easy, but if you're overweight, it's possible to do something about it. And yes, that's people's own choice, rather than something which should be imposed on them. But the health benefits alone are pretty obvious. As for sexuality, you are what you are. You don't get any choice in the matter. And ditto ethnic origin (unless you're Michael Jackson).

best.Post.Ever LOL

[Taijitu]

Originally posted by CharlotteSometimes
Nobody has. Not in this thread, at least. Personally, I wouldn't mock or dislike a hm just because they're a little chubby, or overweight. But it's hardly in the same league as racism or homophobia, is it? You don't get many cases of gangs lurking around cake shops, waiting to beat up overweight people. And unless I've missed it, the BNP don't particularly care who ate all the pies (as long as they're white, of course). I'm not going to be stupid enough to suggest that weight loss is easy, but if you're overweight, it's possible to do something about it. And yes, that's people's own choice, rather than something which should be imposed on them. But the health benefits alone are pretty obvious. As for sexuality, you are what you are. You don't get any choice in the matter. And ditto ethnic origin (unless you're Michael Jackson).

It is EXACTLY the same as racism and homophobia, ive seen people being picked on and hit because they were fat and were not seen to fit into the "norm". I think the posts were removed though and thats why there are none here now. Honestly cant believe people can complain about one bias and yet play down another, there plenty of reasons being fat may not be down to choice and some people may claim being gay is.

[Psylocke]

Originally posted by Taijitu

It is EXACTLY the same as racism and homophobia, ive seen people being picked on and hit because they were fat and were not seen to fit into the "norm". I think the posts were removed though and thats why there are none here now. Honestly cant believe people can complain about one bias and yet play down another, there plenty of reasons being fat may not be down to choice and some people may claim being gay is.

REALLY!!??? people being beaten up for being fat?? Jesus.

BTW being gay isnt a choice,coz im sure there would be many less gay people in the world if it was.

[Taijitu]

Originally posted by Psylocke

REALLY!!??? people being beaten up for being fat?? Jesus.

BTW being gay isnt a choice,coz Im sure there would be many less gay people in the world if it was.

Yes people often get picked on both physically and mentally for not fitting in. BTW being fat isnt a choice,coz Im sure there would be many less fat people in the world if it was. Im sorry you think gay people may not want to be as I doubt you would find many black people saying something along those lines.

[Psylocke]

Originally posted by Taijitu

Yes people often get picked on both physically and mentally for not fitting in. BTW being fat isnt a choice,coz Im sure there would be many less fat people in the world if it was.

[Red Moon]

Big Brother: Carole ends friendship with Nicky

Carole has declared that she no longer wants to be friends with fellow Big Brother housemate Nicky after a major falling-out.

The trouble began in the early hours of Tuesday morning during the Channel swimming task, after the 53-year-old took offence to a remark she overheard Nicky make to Charley.

"Nicky - from now any friendship we had is over," Carole said.

"I don't like the attitude that's developed, especially from you towards me over the last few days. The sort of picky, petty comments that you make."

Nicky looked baffled but Carole went on. "I really don't want to have any more to do with you in this House while I'm here."

The shocked account executive retreated to the garden where she sought solace in the others. "She said I made sarky comments," she told Brian. "But don't we all get involved in everybody's arguments."

"You haven't said anything worse than anybody else," Brian reassured her.

Nicky subsequently returned to the house in an effort to patch things up - but with little success.

"I do not wish to say anything further to you," Carole told her. "I've got enough enemies in the world without having friends like you."

Even Gerry's attempts to reconcile the two were met with short shrift.

"Why don't you sleep on it?" he suggested. "You're all gonna sleep... and you're gonna have a calm conversation tomorrow."

"Don't tell me what I'm going to do tomorrow," Carole snapped back 'cause I'm not."

Source: Whats on TV

[CharlotteSometimes]

Originally posted by Taijitu
It is EXACTLY the same as racism and homophobia, ive seen people being picked on and hit because they were fat and were not seen to fit into the "norm". I think the posts were removed though and thats why there are none here now. Honestly cant believe people can complain about one bias and yet play down another, there plenty of reasons being fat may not be down to choice and some people may claim being gay is.

It's absolutely nothing like the same. Racism and homophobia aren't 'biases', they're callous, malicious hatreds. People who are overweight eat too much, and that's personal choice. It's not a gene thing, it's a cheeseburger and cream cake thing. There's a term for people who claim being gay is 'a choice' - they're known as homophobes.

When George Michael was fat in the 1980s, nobody cared. But since he was outed, it's been almost impossible to read even a single paragraph about him that doesn't make a facile reference to his sexuality. There have been numerous racially motivated murders in recent years. I can't recall a single person being murdered because they were overweight. African-Caribbean people are six times more likely to be stopped and searched by the police than white people, and Asians twice as likely [Socialist Worker]. Funnily enough, there aren't any similar stats for overweight people. We could be here all day, but it would be as pointless as arguing the toss with the Flat Earth Society.

[Taijitu]

Originally posted by CharlotteSometimes

It's absolutely nothing like the same. Racism and homophobia aren't 'biases', they're callous, malicious hatreds. People who are overweight eat too much, and that's personal choice. It's not a gene thing, it's a cheeseburger and cream cake thing. There's a term for people who claim being gay is 'a choice' - they're known as homophobes.

When George Michael was fat in the 1980s, nobody cared. But since he was outed, it's been almost impossible to read even a single paragraph about him that doesn't make a facile reference to his sexuality. There have been numerous racially motivated murders in recent years. I can't recall a single person being murdered because they were overweight. African-Caribbean people are six times more likely to be stopped and searched by the police than white people, and Asians twice as likely [Socialist Worker]. Funnily enough, there aren't any similar stats for overweight people. We could be here all day, but it would be as pointless as arguing the toss with the Flat Earth Society.

If you honestly believe all overweight people are so because they chose to be fat then maybe you should research further into weight issues, there are many ways in which genetics affects a person's weight and everyone has a different metabolism. Saying fat people chose to be fat is as ill informed as saying gay people chose to be gay and even if it were by choice it doesnt make slagging off fat people any less callous and malicious.

Then again I guess I should be bothered at all with this discussion as I am neither gay nor overweight and its completely off topic.

[Wiglet]

Originally posted by Taijitu

If you honestly believe all overweight people are so because they chose to be fat then maybe you should research further into weight issues, there are many ways in which genetics affects a person's weight and everyone has a different metabolism. Saying fat people chose to be fat is as ill informed as saying gay people chose to be gay and even if it were by choice it doesnt make slagging off fat people any less callous and malicious.

Then again I guess I should be bothered at all with this discussion as I am neither gay nor overweight and its completely off topic.

Blimey ya right about being about off topic!

I am overweight and possibly genetically overweight so there! I've employed a worm which is helping to reduce my weight down to a respectable level but I would not recommend this for humans.

But back to what the SUBJECT IS PLEASE.

I was watching a bit on live feed last night(food.......Oh being overweight I think of food all the time of course)....Sorry where was I? Oh yes. Live feed, Nicky was talking in the garden orginally about Jonathin and how she thought he was looking at her bum and other parts of her anatomy.

Meanwhile Jonathon was in the house talking to Carole and saying how he'd love to be friends with Nicky but the shutters are up. Blah blah.

Goodness knows what happened next but I had to get some sleep

PS People did care when George was fat - They didn't fancy him and I remember it well because I was a huge Wham fan and saw them in concert in 1983 at The Brighton Centre and back then Andrew was the one that everyone fancied and why was that? Because George was a bit on the podgy side!!!!! Sorry to spoil the illusion but alas tis true.

[CharlotteSometimes]

Originally posted by Taijitu
If you honestly believe all overweight people are so because they chose to be fat then maybe you should research further into weight issues, there are many ways in which genetics affects a person's weight and everyone has a different metabolism. Saying fat people chose to be fat is as ill informed as saying gay people chose to be gay and even if it were by choice it doesnt make slagging off fat people any less callous and malicious.

Overweight people choose to be so no more than I choose to be misquoted. Medical science dismisses the role of a person's genes as a contributory factor in obesity. Overweight people are that way because they eat too much and don't exercise enough. If they ate less and exercised more, then they wouldn't be overweight. Ergo, it's entirely in their own hands whether they remain obese or not. Obesity is, admittedly to put it in harsh terms, abnormal. Being gay (or not, as the case may be) is entirely normal, and no amount of thinly-veiled homophobia will ever prove otherwise.

[Taijitu]

Originally posted by CharlotteSometimes

Overweight people choose to be so no more than I choose to be misquoted. Medical science dismisses the role of a person's genes as a contributory factor in obesity. Overweight people are that way because they eat too much and don't exercise enough. If they ate less and exercised more, then they wouldn't be overweight. Ergo, it's entirely in their own hands whether they remain obese or not. Obesity is, admittedly to put it in harsh terms, abnormal. Being gay (or not, as the case may be) is entirely normal, and no amount of thinly-veiled homophobia will ever prove otherwise.

You are completely and utterly wrong, end of. But if you still hold these views why not take them up on the serious discusions board? Perhaps also taking the time to read anything there that may be related to the topic first.

[natjake2504]

i was going to say is this a topic about weight, gay & racism or about carole and nicky !!!!!!!!!!!!

[natjake2504]

oh yeah by the way any one who insults big people are out of order because it can run the family not all the time is it something to do with what they eat

[Stacy17]

Originally posted by Gap
You call Susie from BB7 boring, what the hell has Carole done that makes her any more interesting? She'd get on my nerves aswell, I don't want blydi tea!

I agree.. Carole is a little boring most of the time.. but not as bad as Susie. Carole has her funny moments like when she was dancing to the wake up alarm haha that was so funny and when everyone was messing around in the bedroom and she went in really serious and then just joined in

She should let herself go at little more i think she would be more liked.