[cfromhx02]

Joel is not nearly as clever as some make out on BOTS and some of the Ex HM s make out either.

It's just cos most of them aren't that well educated in Politics,no offence.

It's just a plain fact few people are interested in Politics or know much about it.

IMO Joel is only more clever than most of the other HM s.

That is not the same as being clever.

So my Questions which are all factual and completely true so can be proved

to prove whether Joel is intelligent and as well educated about Politics as some think are :-

Does he know that The UK s single biggest Tax Avoiding Individual, Sir Philip Green (he owns the Arcadia Group which owns BHS,Topshop and various others in a chain and sends AT LEAST 3 to 4 Billion a year off to his estranged wife to hide it in her name in Monaco), does he know that Sir Philip worked at NO 10 as an advisor to David Cameron

and does he know that he singed their 100 Businessmen letter in the Telegraph ?

And does Joel know that the Owners of The Telegraph who printed the two fake letters,most of it made up,and showed the one with the signature from the Tax Avoiding Sir Philip

who worked with Cameron at NO 10 does he know that the owners of it who showed that letter signed by him

are also

BIG TAX AVOIDERS.

The Tax Avoiding s c um that own the Telegraph are called the Barclays Brothers.

And Tax Avoidance is easily the biggest reason why the rest of us have had to pay to rescue the UK economy after 2008 when the Tories backed Labour's deregulation of the banks

by voting for them to do it which Joel may be doesn't know either.

So does Joel know these things or not ?

If he doesn't then it just shows he's not as clever or as well educated Politically as some think.

And if he knows them,particularly the bit about Sir Philip Green The Largest Single Tax Avoider in the UK who worked as advisor to Cameron at NO 10

then it just shows he's corrupt.

[cfromhx02]

Only bumping this because it got shoved automatically far down the list straight away because one of the administrators put up several polls at the same time.

It's a very valid point and it is Joel and some others around BB who have mentioned Politics so I didn't start it.

And they are very valid questions

to show whether Joel is as clever as he is made out

[joeysteele]

I cannot see ,to be fair, how knowing those things are not knowing them and I guess he will know them since the first at least was mentioned many times on the TV media,is in any way a measure of whether anyone is clever or not.

So whether he knows them or not, would not have me thinking he is any more or less clever than he already comes across,depending on whatever perspective those watching him hold as to how clever he is or isn't.

[REDCROP]

He's a 19 year old lad in the Big Brother house..he's not Jeremy Paxman....what relevance has any of the above got to do with it ?

If he doesn't know it he's stupid and does't deserve to win and if he does know it he's corrupt and doesn't deserves to win ???? ....LOL...LOL...theres a fair balanced challenge for him....
So i assume since you know it, you are obviously corrupt then ? And now i know it so i must be too.....

Isn't a bit like when they used to accuse people of being witches...if they burned they weren't a witch and if they didn't burn they were a witch and were drowned.

[karezza]

What did Labour do about tax evasion when they were in power?

[Beetlejuice]

I'm always impressed by people who do what they can to hang on to their own money. Good for them.

[Livia]

This should surely be in serious debates.

[sungrass]

its an interesting point because politics is tied to morality, like it or not as the big money men own the polictians and make policys that destroy peoples lives in this country. Its very saddening because many are loosing family bussiness's they ve had for generations in my area -

However you are correct that Joel doesnt have a clue about this!!

he is 19 - and has obviously only been watching whats been spoon fed to him by the media (check out news corp if you wanna see some serious curruption)

If he truly studies politics and is a good person - he wont go into it. Its not full of decent people thats for sure

Its a sad world we live in when discussing something remotely intelligent - and perhaps even enlightening in terms of the political environment we live in

some says "this should go to serious debates" sometimes its pretty refreshing to use your brain when watching ANY tv show. Its not against the law and its empowering. Knowledge is power.