[sungrass]

its an interesting point because politics is tied to morality, like it or not as the big money men own the polictians and make policys that destroy peoples lives in this country. Its very saddening because many are loosing family bussiness's they ve had for generations in my area -

However you are correct that Joel doesnt have a clue about this!!

he is 19 - and has obviously only been watching whats been spoon fed to him by the media (check out news corp if you wanna see some serious curruption)

If he truly studies politics and is a good person - he wont go into it. Its not full of decent people thats for sure

Its a sad world we live in when discussing something remotely intelligent - and perhaps even enlightening in terms of the political environment we live in

some says "this should go to serious debates" sometimes its pretty refreshing to use your brain when watching ANY tv show. Its not against the law and its empowering. Knowledge is power.