[Captain.Remy]

Message original : GlitterEyes
But you need to look at why Ziggy has gone boring and for me that main reason is the fact that Chanelle got her claws into him. I think without Chanelle Ziggy would be alot more entertaining. Where as if Ziggy went Chanelles gameplan would fall flat on the floor. I don't think he is the most boring in there he does have his funny moments still. People say he is manipulating, calculating, attention seeking etc but I don't think he is...and definetely not to the extreme. People like Grace, Sezar, Makosi had a huge hatred from the outside and that was more valued and backed up where as in Ziggys situation I feel is completely different. Alot of guys seem to dislike him I have noticed on most forums rather than girls..ok some girls still do but I feel mainly men have the bigger issue with him for some reason.

Another thing which grates on me is how people cannot debate and get their opinions across without calling him all the names under the sun

At least, Makosi, Sezer and grace made the show.
When Ziggy has been funny ? He thought he was the star because he was the first man to enter in the house...finally he's nothing.
He's booring, did he make anything ? Just told me because I can't see something about him. His showmance with Chanelle is one of the most pathetic thing in BB8. He's a weirdo, get him out ! That's a great choice for once !

[GlitterEyes]

Well we shall just have to agree to disagree because I still think Ziggy has alot more to offer. Where as Tracey, Chanelle, Jonathan, Laura don't.

[OPL73]

Originally posted by sunshine30

His showmance with Chanelle is one of the most pathetic thing in BB8. He's a weirdo, get him out ! That's a great choice for once !

Funniest thing I have read in a while 'showmance?!'

I don't think he's a weirdo though. Just a w@nker and not a very clever one.

[Captain.Remy]

Message original : OPL73

Funniest thing I have read in a while 'showmance?!'

I don't think he's a weirdo though. Just a w@nker and not a very clever one.

The term "showmance" has been used in BB USA between Janelle and Will in order to go far in the game, that was completely false, Will manipulated Janelle...finally she evicted him !
It was really funny, so I use this term for "Zinelle" (what a weird name).

[the_chosen_one]

Originally posted by GlitterEyes
Ziggy has alot more to offer.

What about all the lies, the backstabbing, the cowardliness, the manipulation, the insincerity, the hypocrisy, the sexism, the massive ego, the greasy quiff....

What good are you imagining is going to come from the boy, all of a sudden? And what good have you already seen, that doesnt involve you finding him attractive?

(I've heard you say he's 'nice' or 'genuine' but I think that's a bit of naivity to his facade, on your part, so maybe a couple of examples might help.)

[Captain.Remy]

Message original : the_chosen_one

What about all the lies, the backstabbing, the cowardliness, the manipulation, the insincerity, the hypocrisy, the sexism, the massive ego, the greasy quiff....

What good are you imagining is going to come from the boy, all of a sudden?

It doesn't make a show sorry, he's just a stupid man who thinks he's terribly sexy and will go far in the game.
He's defenatly not a big character in the house, he has nothing to offer except his....nothing in fact !

[Amy21]

Originally posted by Chanelle2win
Now that Billi has gone ziggy is the next on my bb hit list

anyone else agree

No way Charley is next to go!. She cant possibly survive another week . Its time to say bye, bye to Charley .

[Dan_]

I'd like to see Ziggy go next and all.I just find his intentions very false, why on earth he has to get himself involved in all these arguments with girls is beyond me, especially when he's not the one actually in the argument, he just has to but in .

I didn't like how he described Chanelle as his number one target, if she didn't fall for him then would have tried it on with a 2nd/3rd target just to be part of a romance.

He has a massive ego that seems to stop him from really get himself involved fully and that just ends up making him seem false.He wanted to walk out because he was too bothered about his reputation after being accused of being called a pervert, he must obviously be insecure with the whole Chanelle relationship.

His attitude has really turned since the money went to Liam and all.It's really bugged him and he seems to be having to re-think everything now.It is just not natural.

[Chanelle2win]

if anyones going to next fridays live show get everone to shout "get ziggy out" coz it sounds much better that "get charley out"

[Ollie!]

Originally posted by IheartTweety
He's on mine too.

I DESPISE the sly, sneaky, manipulative, fake, no lips, bad skinned bloke who thinks it's okay to aggressively shout in women's faces :@

Bad skin? No

No lips? That's just silly.

Shout in womens faces? When, I must have missed that one? Is it ok for Charley to shout in his face because she is a girl? Pathetic double standard there. He's not been aggressive to a woman once.

He's very concerned about how he is portrayed but I wouldn't say he's playing games. The relationship has been screwing with his head.

He's cheesy and a bit pompous but he hasn't done anything to deserve being hated.

[CassetteFinger]

i havent found ziggy to be entertaining once since he walked through those doors chanelle i have found more entertaining she has made me laugh at least once which ziggy hasent i just want him out of there he is a 26 year old prick.

[sl3ptsolong]

Ziggy shouting at charley what the hell was wrong with that? after all that time i'm surprised he never did it sooner. It must be so hard no to punch that girl i tell you. She even looks like a man which would make it easier.

SUNSHINE 30 its funny how you say "behind your back" everyone does it technically your doing it to ziggy right now calling him a prick. To do it to his face is downright rude which is what charley would do. If you have everyone in there tellin each other exactly what they think you would have blood splattered on all four walls.

I think you people just look for problems that arent there. Its like ashleyne people hated that girl for nothin. Ziggy is being a nice guy to everyone that deserves it. Billy he even confronted about his insecutities in the bathroom. He could have kept it to himself and bitched about him constantly and been fake to his face. But no you could see he was even being genuinely bitter towards billi during his insecurity. NOT FAKING FRIENDSHIP! LIKE CHARLEY !!!!!!!!!!!!! she was best mates with billy in the end which is a load of rubbish.

[Ollie!]

Originally posted by sl3ptsolong
Ziggy shouting at charley what the hell was wrong with that? after all that time i'm surprised he never did it sooner. It must be so hard no to punch that girl i tell you. She even looks like a man which would make it easier.

SUNSHINE 30 its funny how you say "behind your back" everyone does it technically your doing it to ziggy right now calling him a *****. To do it to his face is downright rude which is what charley would do. If you have everyone in there tellin each other exactly what they think you would have blood splattered on all four walls.

I think you people just look for problems that arent there. Its like ashleyne people hated that girl for nothin. Ziggy is being a nice guy to everyone that deserves it. Billy he even confronted about his insecutities in the bathroom. He could have kept it to himself and bitched about him constantly and been fake to his face. But no you could see he was even being genuinely bitter towards billi during his insecurity. NOT FAKING FRIENDSHIP! LIKE CHARLEY !!!!!!!!!!!!! she was best mates with billy in the end which is a load of rubbish.

I totally agree! He's done nothing to deserve being slagged off so much.

[Billy]

Ziggys a nice guy?? Hes a bit errr controlling though

[Captain.Remy]

Message original : sl3ptsolong
SUNSHINE 30 its funny how you say "behind your back" everyone does it technically your doing it to ziggy right now calling him a *****. To do it to his face is downright rude which is what charley would do. If you have everyone in there tellin each other exactly what they think you would have blood splattered on all four walls.

I do it because I'm a member of the public, it's not the same thing actually. The public is here is order to judge the housemates, to love, them or to hate them. That's my opinion about Ziggy so please respect that.
I don't hate a lot of people in my life but they all know that, and I said it clearly, and apparently I'm alive, and everybody told me I was right to do that so I can't see why Charley is hated too because she did that.
Nicky told Charley what she thought about her, Carole did it to Nicky...and apparently no blood anywhere !
Ziggy is just big headed and thinks he's going to win it. His strategy is just really rubbish, then don't think he's a good game-player or a big character please !

[the_chosen_one]

Originally posted by sl3ptsolong
I think you people just look for problems that arent there.

Or, people are commenting on the things they witness, then others pretend it's not true.

Originally posted by sl3ptsolong
Ziggy is being a nice guy to everyone that deserves it.

Also, there's the times he's nasty to people who don't deserve it, and may they all pray that they don't fall on the wrong side of Ziggy's judgement of whether they "deserve" him being nice to them.

Originally posted by sl3ptsolong
NOT FAKING FRIENDSHIP!

Apart from his one with Chanelle?

[Billy]

LMFAO

[Riz]

Originally posted by Sam
I want Ziggy out , dont like him!

read my mind!

[OPL73]

Originally posted by sl3ptsolong
Ziggy shouting at charley what the hell was wrong with
SUNSHINE 30 its funny how you say "behind your back" everyone does it technically your doing it to ziggy right now calling him a *****.

The most ridiculous statement I have read in a while. Yep you're right, it definitely is a technicality. Behind his back on here?! Hysterical laughter enuses...

For the record I don't hate Ziggy. It's hard to hate someone you don't actually know. From his actions, I just happen to think he's a w@nker.

I can't believe people can not see him for what he really is.

There's a degree of truth in the maxim 'People only see what they want to see'

[Sam]

I want Ziggy to go next!

[rex3]

Ziggy out !!!!!

[tornado]

get him out get him out
i hate him
i hate him
lol
ziggy or zac is playing a game and a crul one to channels disspenspence

i HATE him