[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by empire

jeremy kyle has a face of a slimy tory back bench boy, and a smile of a new labour blue boy tony blair, makes me cringe every time he is on tv.

Totally agree. This is a man who makes a living from demonising uneducated and dysfunctional people in front of a baying audience.
He's the last man on this earth I could sympathise with.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

Totally agree. This is a man who makes a living from demonising uneducated and dysfunctional people in front of a baying audience.
He's the last man on this earth I could sympathise with.

I quite like JK,he wouldn't be able to make a living from what you say ' demonising uneducated and dysfunctional people if they didn't put themselves forward for it,most of these people are lazy good for nothing dossers and want 15 mins of fame,also I notice people quick to point out that HE has ruined lives, really? surely the people involved have done that,there have also been many shows where he has helped and made people happy with his help as for the lie detecter,nothing is 100% foolproof but I think you can tell when people are lying ,there is also body language,and they wouldn't be able to use it if it wasn't somewhat accurate as he often says the tests cant be done because of certain things,and best of all he calls out errant parents ,it's not about his looks (well shouldn't be)so,sorry don't get the hate for him at all.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

I quite like JK,he wouldn't be able to make a living from what you say ' demonising uneducated and dysfunctional people if they didn't put themselves forward for it,most of these people are lazy good for nothing dossers and want 15 mins of fame,also I notice people quick to point out that HE has ruined lives, really? surely the people involved have done that,there have also been many shows where he has helped and made people happy with his help as for the lie detecter,nothing is 100% foolproof but I think you can tell when people are lying ,there is also body language,and they wouldn't be able to use it if it wasn't somewhat accurate as he often says the tests cant be done because of certain things,and best of all he calls out errant parents ,it's not about his looks (well shouldn't be)so,sorry don't get the hate for him at all.

I am more with you although I don't really like this show and rarely get to watch it.

He has with his team helped many with addictions and as you say finding Fathers or siblings for people.

I do get annoyed at times with his hardline attitude which I think he spouts off unfairly a lot of the time too.
Then again I look at the people who go on the show, very few have any idea at all how to conduct themselves in public.

He probably does more good than bad to people and they do volunteer themselves to go on the show after all.
However there is good reason that lie detectors are not admissible as fact or accurate as evidence in law and that is simply the fact they are not reliable enough.

He places at times too much emphasis on the results of lie detectors and I would agree with those who say that a good number may well have had relationships and in part their lives ruined by wrong lie detector results.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

I quite like JK,he wouldn't be able to make a living from what you say ' demonising uneducated and dysfunctional people if they didn't put themselves forward for it,most of these people are lazy good for nothing dossers and want 15 mins of fame,also I notice people quick to point out that HE has ruined lives, really? surely the people involved have done that,there have also been many shows where he has helped and made people happy with his help as for the lie detecter,nothing is 100% foolproof but I think you can tell when people are lying ,there is also body language,and they wouldn't be able to use it if it wasn't somewhat accurate as he often says the tests cant be done because of certain things,and best of all he calls out errant parents ,it's not about his looks (well shouldn't be)so,sorry don't get the hate for him at all.

I couldn't agree more Kaz. The fact that the greater majority of those who failed the lie detector go on to admit that it was correct after the show should tell the haters something.

As to the hate; perhaps if you analyse just WHO are doing the hating, it will explain everything.

[Northern Monkey]

Poor old Jezza.How embarrasing.

[kirklancaster]

[QUOTE=Kyle;8185040]This is definitely the opinion of someone who has never been cheated on...

...or a robot.[/QUOTE]

Brings to mind those famous words uttered by that most randy of Robot cheats in 'Short Circuit':

"Johnny number 5" (Randy twat - the most I've ever managed is a '2 break') and "Input Stephanie, input".

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

Poor old Jezza.How embarrasing.

Yep. I heard that he actually went home early and surprised her with 5 men! and as the men fled through the back door, she said:

" I want to thank all my guests but I am for this morning out of time".

[DemolitionRed]

What disturbs me is, the sort of people they choose for the show; its is very deliberate form of exploitation. They don't pick people who are well groomed with pearly whites. They don't pick articulate speakers because this isn't what the JK show is about. Instead they pick what Kyle would call the dregs of society. They pick vulnerable people with complex personal problems. I've seen people on that show who lack the ability to string two coherent words together; people who clearly can't articulate themselves because they have learning difficulties and who only know anger as an emotional response.

They deliberately pick people who their audience see as chavs/untouchables because apparently its fair game to bear bait these undesirables. Its the very thing that have their audience laughing and shaking their heads in disbelief.

Of course these people go on the show. The Vicky Pollard's of this world aren't are far less likely to understand that a polygraph test would never stand up in a court of law as 'proof' of anything. There is a lot of coercion that goes on behind the scenes and according to many who have been on his show, a whole heap of false promises.

In my opinion, having a few good outcomes amongst this fodder isn't enough to make the Jeremy Kyle show good viewing.