[RodHull]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

He said "she's got to go...." Let's remember he was head honcho for the first few days and thought he ran the Gaff...

I seem to remember a whole group of them huddled around saying how petrified they were how they couldnt stay in the house (ring led by gemma if I recall) and then he said 'well then we either go or she does' basically

It was misjudged for sure but he was a mouthpiece for a group decision and he was also one of the first to offer an olive branch and include her back in the group.

If memory serves the worst most vocal ones saying how they couldnt stand living with her were gemma kristina chris and daniella

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Tiff had him sussed...remember the convo in the bathroom. She had to then become his biggest allie...along with Megan.
He has done well to turn them all around (although I don't think some of them trust him)
Tiff isn't stupid...she's playing along with his game.

Are we watching different shows...

That convo was ridiculous, he basically played along to wind her up a bit, he doesnt have a game... he knows he cant win, and after that she realised I think hes just some guy and it was actually gemma causing most of the s**t as from that point she slowly removed herself from gemmas ass and is now actually standing up to her. It was and always has been gemma causing 90% of the crap in there with her snide remarks and winding others up then standing back watching the carnage

Like the whole steph jeremy daniella thing wasnt an issue at all until she stuck her fat hoof in and made it an issue then kept winding daniella up she literally caused that rift between steph and daniella and I think Tiff saw it slowly.