[arista]

[Seven children have been hit by a car outside a school in Liverpool
leaving a number with serious injuries, police have said.
Emergency services are treating the casualties,
who are all girls aged between 11 and 13-years-old,
at the scene of the accident.]


http://news.sky.com/story/1641143/si...outside-school

[Denver]

Where is the lolipop lady?

[arista]

[arista]

Originally Posted by Adam.

Where is the lolipop lady?

Maybe she was some other place
or they do not have one .

[Will.]

Several young girls have been rushed to hospital, with two in a critical condition, after being struck by a car as they left their school in Liverpool this afternoon.
The ambulance service confirmed it has treated eight people in total, with six young girls aged between 11 and 13 taken to Alder Hey Children's Hospital and a 17-year-old taken to Royal Liverpool University Hospital.
Merseyside Police said the driver of the Peugeot involved – a woman aged in her 80s – was also being treated at the scene. A major incident has now been declared by the emergency services.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz3zz54JWtv

[Will.]

[Will.]

This is why we need to reevaluate elderly drivers.

[Denver]

Already a thread

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Will.

This is why we need to reevaluate elderly drivers.

Totally agree. Peoples reactions slow down as they age, which means making an emergency stop more of a problem

[Toy Soldier]

I agree that the elderly need to be reassessed regularly to see if they are still fit to drive. I believe there is something in place, but I think it needs to be more regular, I think specifically reaction times need to be assessed and there should be a threshold for that.

That said - without more information on exactly what happened, it's hard to pass judgement here. There's a high school just off the high street here, and at lunch time / end of school time there are a lot of teens around, crossing the street to the co-op which is on the other side... and it has to be said, it's bloody scary at times. Teens - sometimes alone but sometimes in larger groups of 5 to 10 - are constantly running out into the road without looking, or running out in front of the car even when they have seen it without really any consideration for how close it is or how fast it's going. We live here, so we know to take it slow around that street at those times but we've had a couple of "hit the brakes" situations going at 15 to 20mph where, if we had been going at 30 (the limit for the area), the car may well not have stopped in time.

Basically it could be the fault of the elderly driver, it could be that the girls ran out in a group without looking properly, or most likely some combination of the two (e.g. maybe they did run out without paying attention but a more alert driver could still have avoided the incident).

[billy123]

Originally Posted by Adam.

Where is the lolipop lady?

All gone because of cuts made by the tories.

[DemolitionRed]

The only assessment they have, (unless they have caused an accident or been stopped by the police for hazardous driving) is to take their assessment document to the doctors who asks if they think they are still fit to drive; they answer "yes" and the doctor passes them.

[AnnieK]

I agree there needs to be tighter controls. My dad had to physically remove his dad's car when he turned 90.... My grandad said he was still fit to drive, his doctor agreed, but if you were ever in a car with him you knew it wasn't the case. It really upset my dad to be cruel but in the interests of safety it had to be done.

I hope all injured parties make a speedy recovery but I'm with TS on this that there is a school on my route to work and the kids cN be a menace..on more than one occasion they've darted in front of me and then given a torrent of abuse when I've had a go.....

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

The only assessment they have, (unless they have caused an accident or been stopped by the police for hazardous driving) is to take their assessment document to the doctors who asks if they think they are still fit to drive; they answer "yes" and the doctor passes them.

A workmate of mine's husband has a tumor that occasionally presses on his carotid artery and causes him to momentarily lose consciousness. Despite her protesting, he still drives. TBH, this terrifies me when I know that my wife and kids are often out driving around on those same roads...

[T*]

Elderly need to be retested

[jennyjuniper]

Originally Posted by Will.

This is why we need to reevaluate elderly drivers.

I must agree and I'm in my late sixties. It would be a good idea for everyone over the age of say 70/75 to be tested yearly.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I agree that the elderly need to be reassessed regularly to see if they are still fit to drive. I believe there is something in place, but I think it needs to be more regular, I think specifically reaction times need to be assessed and there should be a threshold for that.

That said - without more information on exactly what happened, it's hard to pass judgement here. There's a high school just off the high street here, and at lunch time / end of school time there are a lot of teens around, crossing the street to the co-op which is on the other side... and it has to be said, it's bloody scary at times. Teens - sometimes alone but sometimes in larger groups of 5 to 10 - are constantly running out into the road without looking, or running out in front of the car even when they have seen it without really any consideration for how close it is or how fast it's going. We live here, so we know to take it slow around that street at those times but we've had a couple of "hit the brakes" situations going at 15 to 20mph where, if we had been going at 30 (the limit for the area), the car may well not have stopped in time.

Basically it could be the fault of the elderly driver, it could be that the girls ran out in a group without looking properly, or most likely some combination of the two (e.g. maybe they did run out without paying attention but a more alert driver could still have avoided the incident).

...I read that her car went onto the pavement and hit them ...whether there was a health thing with her that caused that or misjudgement, I don't know...

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

A workmate of mine's husband has a tumor that occasionally presses on his carotid artery and causes him to momentarily lose consciousness. Despite her protesting, he still drives. TBH, this terrifies me when I know that my wife and kids are often out driving around on those same roads...

..that really surprises me actually, I know older people do to all extent, 'self certify' their ability to still drive, which is a worry and so wrong...but with things like that/ potential 'blackout' associated healthy issues, that's something where driving usually is prohibited in my experience of people I've known...maybe his GP/specialist has stated that he is fit to drive, despite your colleague obviously not being comfortable with that/I don't know but that does seem odd to me...

[arista]

Originally Posted by jennyjuniper

I must agree and I'm in my late sixties. It would be a good idea for everyone over the age of say 70/75 to be tested yearly.

Yes make it Law,
though.


It no good just saying the should be tested
Enforce it
With Big Fines


Fair is Fair