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If he is innocent and doesn't want his rep ruining he should stop being stubborn and just release her from the contract. Why would he still want to work with her if she lied about it?
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If he is innocent and doesn't want his rep ruining he should stop being stubborn and just release her from the contract. Why would he still want to work with her if she lied about it?
I agree in principle but I can see Sony/his point as well that they shouldn't be forced to let someone out of a major contract because they've kicked up a fuss over unsubstantiated claims - I know that makes Sony look terrible for potentially excusing rape and abuse but nothing has been proven in court and that means that it's just as likely that Kesha's making it all up to get out of her contract; they claim that they've offered to let her work without him but she's not happy with that because he'll still profit from her work, she wants to have nothing to do with him... which is fair enough if you believe her, but if you don't then it means his only high profile consistent selling act has stopped working for the last few years and is determined to leave him and spitefully make sure he doesn't get any of the profits of her future work, thus taking away any kind of money spinning from him and probably killing his label in the process.

So even if he doesn't want to work with her either, they have contract law binding them together and it's more complicated than just mutually not wanting to work together again; she's the only major selling artist signed to his label, he's not going to give up on that without a fight and tbh her refusing to work until she's free of him IS her choice which, depending on your viewpoint, either makes her principled and worthy of support or is petulant and proves she's just trying to destroy his career... it's a really interesting case.

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We don't know what happened... It's silly to just believe her because you like her music. She's sworn under oath that he didn't do anything to her, and now she's saying he did. So either she lied while under oath or she's lying now. He doesn't seem like the most reputable person but that doesn't mean he should be judged as a rapist.
You shouldn't be able to get out of a contract just because you make life difficult for someone.
She isn't being 'forced' to work with him, so churn out those albums and then go your own ways.
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Well... she can't 'churn out' 5 albums without working with Dr Luke atm
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Well... she can't 'churn out' 5 albums without working with Dr Luke atm
She can though, Sony have offered her that option, she's refusing because he'll still profit from her work because she's contracted to his sub-label. I agree with commblair, the easiest way forward for her would be to low-key churn out however many albums she has left on her contract and have a proper banger lined up ready to go with a new record deal with someone else.
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Sony Music is allegedly ending its relationship with producer Lukasz Gottwald, better known as Dr. Luke.

Insiders told TheWrap that the record label wants to drop the producer after controversy bubbled over his troubled relationship with Kesha. The pop star has accused Dr. Luke of abusing, drugging and sexually assaulting her over several years. Her attempt to break her contract with Sony has made headlines since she first filed a lawsuit in 2014.

"The fact that this hasn't already been taken care of is confusing, especially for people in the building," one source told TheWrap of Sony.

Sony is expected to drop Dr. Luke one year ahead of his contract's expiration in early 2017; the very public legal battle with Kesha has caused a public relations nightmare for the company, especially since celebrities like Kelly Clarkson and Lady Gaga have joined the conversation to support the 29-year-old singer.

"There is no contest. Kesha has no case in regards to her contract but they can't afford the Adeles of the world out in the streets calling the label unsupportive," the source told TheWrap.

In February, a judge denied Kesha's request to break her contract, pointing out that Kesha has been permitted to record without Dr. Luke. She said, "It's not in Sony's best interest to make no money. Are you really saying they are not going to promote her [music]?" She added that she would not "decimate a contract that was heavily negotiated."

Sony has not commented on the issue. It's unclear how the company would break the contract since Dr. Luke, who has denied the claims, has not been convicted of any crimes.
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A victory for Kesh?
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A victory for Kesh?
Nah I think this is just them washing their hands of the situation, so rather than it being Kesha vs Dr Luke and Sony it's just Kesha vs Dr Luke - she's still signed to his label so it's still a legal battle between them but if Sony are ending their working relationship with Luke then that's all the financial support taken away from his label so realistically unless he wants to plough all his own money into keeping his label afloat and keeping all these artists signed to it, it's going to collapse and all these contracts will likely become null and void. Kesha's deal was specifically with Luke but idk if any of his other artists are signed to Sony via his label so would be unaffected or if they have similar set ups to Kesha and are similarly ****ed.
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I got attacked by a heap of people online for asking why people are choosing sides when we have no idea what happened... Apparently if you don't side with the accuser (even if you don't know them, or anything else about it) then you're promoting rape culture.

I'm sorry but I refuse to refer to "the accused rapist" as "the rapist" just because someone who hasn't even been formally charged with the crime was accused of it by a pop star.
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He hasn't been behaving like an innocent man would though. Shouldn't he just let Kesha go to stop the negativity. He's clearly got some weird hold/obsession over her.

Anyway it's not like he was short of work, but he's ruined his career now
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He hasn't been behaving like an innocent man would though. Shouldn't he just let Kesha go to stop the negativity. He's clearly got some weird hold/obsession over her.

Anyway it's not like he was short of work, but he's ruined his career now
Is it a weird hold or is it a businessman trying to protect his business interests? Take this situation and apply it to two made up people instead: Person A has a business, Person B wants to work for that business. Person A offers Person B a contract that says you will work for me and only me, you will do as I say. Person B signs it and they start making lots of money together. Person A runs out of ideas for Person B and starts focusing on other employees. Person B doesn't like this, wants out and suddenly realises that the contract they so willingly signed years ago isn't such a good thing anymore and kicks up a huge fuss that gets everyone else noticing and interested.

Nobody knows if the rape allegations are true but Kesha and Luke and it's not fair to turn Luke into this hate figure when we know literally nothing about it. I do believe Kesha but I don't think anyone in Luke's position would be behaving any differently regardless of whether her rape accusations are true or false - he signed her to his label and turned her into a star, she's his most successful act. Why should he just let her walk away after she's ruined his public image? It makes no business sense and she's personally gone out of her way to drag his name through the dirt, so again, either way, he has no reason to do her any favours and I get the feeling he'd rather kill her career as she's killed his than let her go and start again.
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Letting Kesha go would have been more beneficial to his business then making her stay and not record though
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Letting Kesha go would have been more beneficial to his business then making her stay and not record though
Letting go his best asset and seeing her make money for someone else while he has no proven sellers signed to his label would not make sense for him - obviously having her selling records is best for him but she's choosing not to work so I don't think he's being unfair not wanting to let her go out of principle, she's the one choosing not to work. I support her choice not to but that doesn't make him at fault until he's found guilty of something by a judge or the contract is declared void or something. To be honest she was foolish to ever sign a contract this restrictive but she was probably excited to be offered one and accepted without reading it over.
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One of those subjects that if you don't know what happened don't get involved because all this Kesha supporters will look like twat if it comes out she lied
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One of those subjects that if you don't know what happened don't get involved because all this Kesha supporters will look like twat if it comes out she lied
Ironic considering your avatar though
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Adele just wanted to let her fan know she is their
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Thanks for keeping this running chicks, let's hope justice is served for our Keesh soon

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What if "justice" is that she has to honour her contract?

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Then abuser Luke wins and the world weeps in me humble onion im afraid!!!
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