[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

It's something that can be picked up on in day to day life, I know that I've learned more about Religions in my own spare time than I ever did when I was at School.

Yes, we can all learn about the entire world in our day to day life.

Close the schools! We can just learn in our spare time!

[arista]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Yes, we can all learn about the entire world in our day to day life.

Close the schools! We can just learn in our spare time!

No Close Schools like this one
that have gone wrong

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Yes, we can all learn about the entire world in our day to day life.

Close the schools! We can just learn in our spare time!

Ironically I've educated myself a lot better than my Teachers ever did.

But obviously I know that School is needed for those that need guidance, and to get better at socializing.

But you honestly think that teaching Religion is so important when you're going to School? It gets talked about so much in day to day life that it isn't really needed as you're very likely to get your information from your parents, friends, atheists, and the Political side of them you can learn from the news.

When you're going to School you want to learn about stuff that's gonna help you provide for yourself such as English, Maths, Science, History (if you want to become an Historian) Geography, PE etc, yet a lot of these are studied significantly less just so the Teachers can put their own points of view across on a particular Religion/Religions.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by arista

No Close Schools like this one
that have gone wrong

Precisely Arista

ironic that the people who say all Muslims mustn't be judged on the actions of a few are quite happy to close all faith schools on the actions of a handful, where is the freedom of expression or choice in that or shall we sweep those freedoms aside for religious people to please the atheists

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Precisely Arista

ironic that the people who say all Muslims mustn't be judged on the actions of a few are quite happy to close all faith schools on the actions of a handful, where is the freedom of expression or choice in that or shall we sweep those freedoms aside for religious people to please the atheists

I'm no Atheist, but having Faith Schools is just gonna keep causing Religious feuds all of the time and do you really want that when Christians, Muslims, and Jewish could all mix in the same Secular School?

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

I'm no Atheist, but having Faith Schools is just gonna keep causing Religious feuds all of the time and do you really want that when Christians, Muslims, and Jewish could all mix in the same Secular School?

Doesn't feuding happen between schools whether they are religious or not? People will always find something to feud about, you can't live in a democracy and deny people their rights, if we are going to pick and choose which people have freedom to choose there is no democracy

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Ironically I've educated myself a lot better than my Teachers ever did.

But obviously I know that School is needed for those that need guidance, and to get better at socializing.

But you honestly think that teaching Religion is so important when you're going to School? It gets talked about so much in day to day life that it isn't really needed as you're very likely to get your information from your parents, friends, atheists, and the Political side of them you can learn from the news.

When you're going to School you want to learn about stuff that's gonna help you provide for yourself such as English, Maths, Science, History (if you want to become an Historian) Geography, PE etc, yet a lot of these are studied significantly less just so the Teachers can put their own points of view across on a particular Religion/Religions.

If you think education is only about preparing you for what you might require in a job ("if you want to become a historian") then this conversation is over.

Also, why are you suggesting that time is lost on English, Maths, Science and History to spend more time on religion where the teachers push their own beliefs on the students? That's a bizarre notion.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Precisely Arista

ironic that the people who say all Muslims mustn't be judged on the actions of a few are quite happy to close all faith schools on the actions of a handful, where is the freedom of expression or choice in that or shall we sweep those freedoms aside for religious people to please the atheists

Yes this school , not like other Muslims Schools,
crossed the line.

We have Rules on this

Democracy

[Northern Monkey]

Muslim schools need closely monitoring,Not Christian or Jewish or Sikh or Hindu but muslim schools need singling out because it is those that are potentially the biggest threat to this country.We need to make sure that they are not radicalising the muslim children and creating mini future terrorists.Get Islamic schools and mosques cleaned up because they are the problem.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

Muslim schools need closely monitoring,Not Christian or Jewish or Sikh or Hindu but muslim schools need singling out because it is those that are potentially the biggest threat to this country.We need to make sure that they are not radicalising the muslim children and creating mini future terrorists.Get Islamic schools and mosques cleaned up because they are the problem.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

Muslim schools need closely monitoring,Not Christian or Jewish or Sikh or Hindu but muslim schools need singling out because it is those that are potentially the biggest threat to this country.We need to make sure that they are not radicalising the muslim children and creating mini future terrorists.Get Islamic schools and mosques cleaned up because they are the problem.

Foolishly shortsighted and hysterical. What next? Putting them in camps just in case?

Treating an entire subsection of people like criminals when they haven't done anything will only divide us further. It's suggestions like this that only help IS. Crush extremism when it's found but don't punish innocent people and make them feel like second class citizens out of fear. 'Preventative' action like that sounds more like something IS would endorse.

[JoshBB]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

Muslim schools need closely monitoring,Not Christian or Jewish or Sikh or Hindu but muslim schools need singling out because it is those that are potentially the biggest threat to this country.We need to make sure that they are not radicalising the muslim children and creating mini future terrorists.Get Islamic schools and mosques cleaned up because they are the problem.

It's not going to do much to prevent radicalisation when you're going to single people out as an enemy before they've done anything wrong. I agree muslim schools need extra monitoring given the stats, but so should christian schools given that violence against muslims by white people has seen an increase in recent years. Not all churches are extremist and neither are all mosques though, and they are not all 'the problem'.

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by JoshBB

It's not going to do much to prevent radicalisation when you're going to single people out as an enemy before they've done anything wrong. I agree muslim schools need extra monitoring given the stats, but so should christian schools given that violence against muslims by white people has seen an increase in recent years. Not all churches are extremist and neither are all mosques though, and they are not all 'the problem'.

No but you need to search out and find the problem ones.Muslim schools need to be focussed on because they are the problem.Wasting resources on other areas just to 'make it fair' is pointless and detracts from where the actual threat is coming from.We are'nt America with crazy Christian sects and Sikhs,Hindus and Jews are generally peaceful atleast in this country.
If you get a tumour in your lung then searching your big toe for it won't help.
We should'nt be scared to sniff out terrorism from it's source just because 'it does'nt look PC'

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

No but you need to search out and find the problem ones.Muslim schools need to be focussed on because they are the problem.Wasting resources on other areas just to 'make it fair' is pointless and detracts from where the actual threat is coming from.We are'nt America with crazy Christian sects and Sikhs,Hindus and Jews are generally peaceful atleast in this country.
If you get a tumour in your lung then searching your big toe for it won't help.
We should'nt be scared to sniff out terrorism from it's source just because 'it does'nt look PC'

It's not about being PC, it's about creating a bigger mess out of fear.

If we pre-preemptively treat people like terrorists then we're doing IS' job for them.

[Kizzy]

What is wrong with regulation for all schools state, private or academy?

[Ammi]

...singling out Muslim schools would be a breach of Islamic human rights...this school hasn't been 'singled out', it's being investigated because there are concerns and there have to be concerns like this...schools/any school shouldn't just be investigated or targeted to 'keep a close eye on' unless there are definite reasons to do so...

[Crimson Dynamo]

the answer is to take religion out of schools completely and utterly

[icecakes]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

the answer is to take religion out of schools completely and utterly

Exactly school is for learning, not having religion crammed down their throats, let them be kids.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

If you think education is only about preparing you for what you might require in a job ("if you want to become a historian") then this conversation is over.

Also, why are you suggesting that time is lost on English, Maths, Science and History to spend more time on religion where the teachers push their own beliefs on the students? That's a bizarre notion.

That's exactly what School is for, teaching children the basics and then the children are suppose to go on and persue their subjects that they're interested in, and of course to help children socialise with strangers.

What do you think School is suppose to be for?

And until I was old enough to go for subjects that I wanted to learn, RE was pushed ahead of History at my Schools, and it was on par with English and Science (as for some reason my Schools loved Maths and I'm beyond **** at it) but yeah RE used to be done a lot, and all it ever really was, was pro Christianity, anti-Islam, and indifferent responses to the others.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Doesn't feuding happen between schools whether they are religious or not? People will always find something to feud about, you can't live in a democracy and deny people their rights, if we are going to pick and choose which people have freedom to choose there is no democracy

We're also suppose to be in a multicultural society and having Faith Schools around that some of them actively teaches hatred of anything different to themselves is not exactly embracing the UK's ways.

I honestly don't feel comfortable with parents brainwashing their children by putting them in a Faith School that could completely mess up their outlook on life.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

That's exactly what School is for, teaching children the basics and then the children are suppose to go on and persue their subjects that they're interested in, and of course to help children socialise with strangers.

What do you think School is suppose to be for?

And until I was old enough to go for subjects that I wanted to learn, RE was pushed ahead of History at my Schools, and it was on par with English and Science (as for some reason my Schools loved Maths and I'm beyond **** at it) but yeah RE used to be done a lot, and all it ever really was, was pro Christianity, anti-Islam, and indifferent responses to the others.

School is for far more than just preparing you for what job you would like as an adult Mock. Don't act dumb.

Your school taught you to be anti-islamic?

I call bulls*t.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

School is for far more than just preparing you for what job you would like as an adult Mock. Don't act dumb.

Your school taught you to be anti-islamic?

I call bulls*t.

It's not acting dumb, School teaches you to get on in your Adult life, and how to socialize.

Don't tell me that you think School is suppose to be fun do you? Because trust me, bullies, Teachers being biased towards certain kids, and when you have Migraine's and the School won't let you go home, or even Phone your parents about you having a Migraine so you're just trapped there lying on a pillow doing nothing is not fun.

Teachers getting the **** beaten out of them by 13/14 year olds is not fun.

Having homophobic and racism thrown out you isn't fun.

So tell me what is School suppose to be about other than Job prospects, and socializing?

And my Schools wasn't so open about being "Anti-Islam" but they definitely used to show more of the barbaric parts of the Koran than they ever did the Bible or the Torah, or the Vedas etc.

[Marsh.]

Yes, Mock, I was clearly referring to how "fun" school is supposed to be. That was my point.

[bots]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

So tell me what is School suppose to be about other than Job prospects, and socializing?

It's about getting an education perhaps?

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

School is for far more than just preparing you for what job you would like as an adult Mock.

It should be. It isn't. It's for creating productive drones, but it's not even very good at that