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Originally Posted by Jack_

I really don't ever recall her doing that to Chris, and Jale even said herself she didn't feel bullied both in and out of the show so doesn't that tell you everything? You have to remember we were watching a 48 minute version of a 24 hour day, there's no way of telling how she treated her for the rest of it - but I'd be more inclined to believe someone who lived with her and was on the receiving end of it

I can never buy into arguments about how 'if x wasn't there y would happen' because it's all hypothetical, it's like when people say 'we need to evict this person so this happens' well how do you know that? Time and time again it's been proven that series are dismantled by the eviction of integral housemates and then people complain it's boring and wonder why. It's better to view the show in the present rather than take a gamble on a whim, and BB15's cast were overall pretty dreadful, miserable people so there's no guaranteeing anything would've changed

Look, I get why people don't like BB15 and that's fine but personally I found it gripping from start to finish and to top it all off it had the most perfect, deserving finish with the first all-female final two. It's seriously underrated IMO



Well actually what you're doing in saying that is absolving her of any blame for her own actions. Only Helen is in control of how far she takes it, there is no excusing what she did to Brian, winner of the show or not

I don't care, I saw what I saw and SHE said in the house when Helen hated her in the DR that she felt isolated/bullied and cried. Of course when she was friends with/after the show she would say that as she was scared by Helen hence her becoming friends with her. She did used to say things like wasppp etc as christopher walked past with her gang, not an offensive word, but a bullying tactic.

BB15 was boring past the first three weeks because all it was was Helen and the lads having a smoke, I liked the first three weeks, I loved Ashleigh, it ended awfully though won by the woman who had made it worse than it could be.