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Old 14-06-2016, 06:45 AM #1
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Default For 'undecided' voters - how your p.m. Is deceiving you

YOU ARE BEING DECEIVED BY DAVID CAMERON, GEORGE OSBORNE, AND THE 'REMAIN' CAMPAIGNERS.

AFTER THE REFERENDUM - IF WE VOTE TO REMAIN - YOU WILL FIND OUT THAT CAMERON'S ILLEGAL B.S. 'DEAL' IS WORTHLESS, AND YOU WILL BE 'BLITZED' BY ALL THE DEVELOPMENTS WHICH ARE PERMANENTLY DAMAGING TO YOU AND YOUR COUNTRY, WHICH THE EU IS 'HOLDING BACK' AND HAS BURIED UNTIL AFTER THE 23rd OF JUNE.

WHILE CAMERON IS DECEITFULLY REASSURING YOU THAT OUR FUTURE IS BETTER AND SAFER AND STRONGER IN THE CORRUPT FEDERALIST SHAMBLES THAT IS THE EU, AND WHILE HE IS PROMISING YOU THAT THE NHS IS 'SAFE', HE IS A PARTY TO EU PLANS TO PRIVATISE IT.

WHILE HE IS TELLING YOU THAT HE DOES NOT WANT TURKEY TO JOIN THE EU AND THAT THERE IS 'NO CHANCE' OF THEM DOING SO, HE HAS FUNDED AND SET UP A GOVERNMENT DEPARTMENT - WITH £1.5 BILLION POUNDS OF UK TAXPAYERS MONEY - TO 'ACCELERATE AND EASE TURKEY'S MEMBERSHIP INTO THE EU'

THE N.H.S:

A MAJOR LEAK FROM BRUSSELS REVEALS THAT THE NHS WILL BE ‘KILLED OFF’ IF BRITAIN REMAINS IN THE EU.

New Brussels report reveals that NHS will be killed off if Britain remain in EU
Hundreds of papers from the secretive trade talks between the US and EU have been released online.

They appear to confirm fears that the Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership talks between Brussels and Washington will, when ratified, lead to the health service being privatised or dismantled.

The documents, obtained by Greenpeace Netherlands, include a US proposal to have a committee with representatives from Washington and Brussels to meet each year “to review state-owned enterprises and monopolies” which would include the NHS.

The committee would meet annually and would not be guaranteed a representative from Britain.

But it would still be able to review state-run services in this country. Its duties would include checking that state services do not “distort” the market.

One section of the papers makes it clear that the EU and America would seek eventually to end all forms of state intervention in competition with the private sector.

The report states that if Britain remains in EU the NHS will be sold off and privatised

It says: “The parties acknowledge that anti-competitive business practices and state interventions have the potential to distort the proper functioning of markets and undermine the benefits of trade liberalisation.”

Opponents of TTIP have long argued that including healthcare in the treaty will force the privatisation of the NHS or at least make the process impossible to reverse.

EU officials CLAIM they WILL HAVE wording that allows for the NHS to be protected but have so far FAILED to provide a full exemption.

Meanwhile, Prime Minister David Cameron has REFUSED to ask for an exemption while STILL trying to persuade British voters to back the Remain campaign in the EU Referendum.

Pro-Brexit campaigners have long warned that if Britain remains in the EU it will see its health service privatised and the NHS broken up.

The latest revelations PROVE that BREXIT Campaigners have been CORRECT all allong in claiming that the NHS is UNDER THREAT if we remain in the EU and Nigel Farage warned the documents PROVE that the NHS is under threat with a Remain vote.

The party’s health spokeswoman Louise Bours said: “If we don’t say goodbye to the EU we will have to say goodbye to the NHS.

“This committee HAS BEEN REQUESTED BY AMERICAN INVESTORS, who will meet with EU officials once a year to decide the fate of our NHS."

TURKEY:

'UK PAYS £1.8 BILLION POUNDS TO HELP ALBANIA AND TURKEY JOIN THE EU'.

The UK will be obliged to pay nearly £2 billion by 2020 to encourage Albania, Macedonia, Montenegro, Serbia and Turkey to join the EU:

The Home Secretary Theresa May has warned against letting Albania, Macedonia, Montenegro, Serbia and Turkey join the EU, saying that they are ‘countries with poor populations and serious problems with organised crime, corruption, and sometimes even terrorism.’

Despite this, it is the Government’s position to support these countries’ membership bids.

The UK government has agreed to pay £1.2 billion under the EU’s Instrument for Pre-Accession Assistance to these countries between 2014 and 2020, or £169.5 million per year. This is half the annual NHS Cancer Drugs Fund.

The EU Commission describes this as an ‘investment in the future of the EU’, which ‘creates incentives for EU future members’.

In addition, the UK will pay Turkey a further £640 million as part of the recent EU-Turkey deal designed to facilitate Turkish accession to the EU.

Combining commitments under the Instrument for Pre-Accession Assistance and obligations to Turkey under the recent deal, the UK’s total payments to candidate countries will be £1.8 billion. The EU as a whole will be paying €17.7 billion to candidate countries to join the EU.

Commenting, Gisela Stuart, Vote Leave Chair, said:

'The NHS is already struggling to cope with a lack of funding and huge demand. Rather than sending money abroad to countries that want to join the EU I believe we should be spending our money on our priorities here in the UK.

'Instead of giving an extra 88 million people - more than our entire population - access to the NHS I believe it would be safer to take back control. We should give our struggling NHS the £350 million we send to the EU every week.'

Iain Duncan Smith said:

'The Home Secretary was right to warn that allowing Albania, Serbia and Turkey into the EU could undermine our security. Letting them into Europe's open border policy will make it harder for us to stop criminals and terrorists from these countries coming to the UK.

‘Despite these warnings, the UK Government has agreed to send them a staggering £2 billion of UK taxpayers' money to help them join the EU as quickly as possible. This is a waste of our money and worse - it’s dangerous because it will make us less safe.

'In an uncertain world, it is not sensible to extend our border to Syria and Iraq. We should Vote Leave to take back control over who we let into the UK.'

THIS REFERENDUM IS ONCE IN A LIFETIME - DO NOT LET THOSE WITH VESTED INTERESTS CON YOU - VOTE OUT.
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You can download the leaks from Greenpeace https://www.ttip-leaks.org/

There has been much discussion regarding this before May of this year. The problem is, we have been selling off the NHS for some time now but presently its still reversible because we haven't yet signed the TTIP deal. Once we sign it the social side of the NHS will have to raise its prices substantially, which of course is an impossibility. If it doesn't charge the same as the privatized side, the privatized side can sue the social side with the TTIP rule book of unfair competition. Once its fully privatized, it can't be reversed without being further sued by the TTIP.

If the TTIP deal goes ahead, there's going to be one big NHS auction and we are all going to have to go out and buy medical insurance.
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Not to state the obvious, but there has been a distinct and rapidly progressing privitisation coup going on since long before Brexit / TTIP chatter. It's happening. If you think voting "out" will save the NHS, you are fooling yourself, it's already more than half way dismantled with no going back.
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Not to state the obvious, but there has been a distinct and rapidly progressing privitisation coup going on since long before Brexit / TTIP chatter. It's happening. If you think voting "out" will save the NHS, you are fooling yourself, it's already more than half way dismantled with no going back.
Very sadly for that NHS, you are right in that TS.
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You can download the leaks from Greenpeace https://www.ttip-leaks.org/

There has been much discussion regarding this before May of this year. The problem is, we have been selling off the NHS for some time now but presently its still reversible because we haven't yet signed the TTIP deal. Once we sign it the social side of the NHS will have to raise its prices substantially, which of course is an impossibility. If it doesn't charge the same as the privatized side, the privatized side can sue the social side with the TTIP rule book of unfair competition. Once its fully privatized, it can't be reversed without being further sued by the TTIP.

If the TTIP deal goes ahead, there's going to be one big NHS auction and we are all going to have to go out and buy medical insurance.
YOUR reason for supporting a Brexit (on various threads) is CORRECT D.R, and IF this country REMAINS in the EU, the N.H.S is doomed and so is the UK because T.T.I.P.P. WILL go ahead - NOTHING IS GOING TO STOP THAT.

As you quite rightly say - the ONLY way to protect the N.H.S. is to Brexit.

Those who are seduced by the lies and propaganda and who maintain T.I.P.P. will NEVER happen are living in a 'Fool's Paradise' because IT IS DEFINITELY going to happen. The USA and EU have spent long years and billions of dollars secretly structuring this deal and THAT is THE main reason why the USA is so (irrationally) urging us to stay in the EU, and why deceitful bastards such as 'Barry' Obama took the trouble to rally to Deceitful Dave's side to speak up for his 'Remain' cause.

T.I.P.P WILL happen (just as TURKEY WILL be allowed to join the EU sooner than later) because the 'DEAL' has ALREADY been done.

Cameron has joined that list of British Prime Ministers - Heath, Major, Blair etc - who are TRAITORS to the British people.
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