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Old 17-06-2016, 02:38 AM #1
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They will start going one after another because they do almost every series. Like I said, quote me and see

You may find him a drain, but by definition he is a character. Most of the discussions on these forums and on social media this series have revolved around him. That is a good thing and one which shouldn't be discouraged. And if there were far better characters in there, they would be getting an edit! You can't say things like that when all we have to go off is the edit itself, we don't have live feed anymore so it's impossible for anyone to speculate on such things

You are letting your personal dislike of him (which I can understand, I'm not saying I like him as a person but there's a difference between people and housemates) get in the way of the logical argument that he should stay for the benefit of the series
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They will start going one after another because they do almost every series. Like I said, quote me and see

You may find him a drain, but by definition he is a character. Most of the discussions on these forums and on social media this series have revolved around him. That is a good thing and one which shouldn't be discouraged. And if there were far better characters in there, they would be getting an edit! You can't say things like that when all we have to go off is the edit itself, we don't have live feed anymore so it's impossible for anyone to speculate on such things

You are letting your personal dislike of him (which I can understand, I'm not saying I like him as a person but there's a difference between people and housemates) get in the way of the logical argument that he should stay for the benefit of the series
I said this in another thread but I'll say it again here.

People like Alex, Jackson etc have no impact on my enjoyment of the show, whereas Marco has a negative impact on my enjoyment on the show. Therefore the logical decision is to evict the one who is making me enjoy the show less, rather than evicting the one who will have no impact on whether I'm enjoying the show or not.
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I said this in another thread but I'll say it again here.

People like Alex, Jackson etc have no impact on my enjoyment of the show, whereas Marco has a negative impact on my enjoyment on the show. Therefore the logical decision is to evict the one who is making me enjoy the show less, rather than evicting the one who will have no impact on whether I'm enjoying the show or not.
100% agree - we have to keep marco.
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100% agree - we have to keep marco.
Err no, that's not the point I was making at all lmao. Marco needs to go.
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No I'm not missing anything, I addressed it in the first reply that it's just your prediction it'll collapse without him and entertaining housemates will go one after the other. Until it happens really you're

I do not find him interesting or entertaining in the slightest and I think Georgina, Andy and Emma have more potential.
Yes you are, because I addressed it in the post you replied to first that I know Marco isn't the only big character this series and the series will not immediately collapse after his eviction, but that it will start the process. You keep implying I think he's the only star and that the series will be over if he's evicted when I've said on several occasions that isn't the case. You are missing the point.

We shall see, but as I keep saying quote me and watch. It happens almost every year and will likely this series too, I'd be amazed if it didn't

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And you just know people will be posting in hindsight how this series started off great and went downhill.
Yep happens every year and people are always bemused as to why it got so boring, but fail to recognise it's often partly their fault

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The thing is though, people don't enjoy watching Marco. Why would people want to watch somebody they hate every night? Entertainment is subjective, and clearly, the majority of us think we'd be more entertained by the show if he wasn't there.
People love to hate people and they love to watch people they hate. It is not a conscious thing or something someone would admit but they do, there's a reason why dramas, films, soaps, plays have both antagonists and protagonists.

The number of people who would stop watching this series because of Marco is extremely low. The number of people who may end up hearing about this series and consider watching because of Marco is higher. And that's because he's a divisive character that sparks discussion which in turn gets the show more attention. The same would not be true of a housemate like Alex or Evelyn, again the number of people who'd stop watching because of them is little if not non-existent, but the number of people who would consider watching because of them is - at present - zero.

It is better to have a strong, hateful opinion on a housemate than none at all. Without these housemates, the show would fall flat on its face (which it often does when several of them leave in succession) and it's just detrimental to its success and indeed future. No idea why any fan of Big Brother would want to sign off on that tbh

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I said this in another thread but I'll say it again here.

People like Alex, Jackson etc have no impact on my enjoyment of the show, whereas Marco has a negative impact on my enjoyment on the show. Therefore the logical decision is to evict the one who is making me enjoy the show less, rather than evicting the one who will have no impact on whether I'm enjoying the show or not.
But you are seeing the show through selfish means rather than for the collective benefit of the series and franchise, granted vote to evict only encourages such emotive, illogical mentalities but still. Surely it's better to have an opinion on a housemate, be it good or bad, than none at all?

Without housemates like Marco we would not have anything to talk about. And a show like Big Brother thrives off discussion on forums like these, on social media and in real life. No divisive and big characters, no discussion, no show.
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But you are seeing the show through selfish means rather than for the collective benefit of the series and franchise, granted vote to evict only encourages such emotive, illogical mentalities but still. Surely it's better to have an opinion on a housemate, be it good or bad, than none at all?
Well obviously I'm viewing it selfishly - isn't that why different people watch different shows because everyone enjoys things differently?

And Vote to Save is also a selfish voting method so I don't get that point either.

And I disagree, if I have a bad opinion on someone, I'd much rather that person be removed from the show completely so I can enjoy the show more positively, rather than removing someone who will not affect how much or how little I enjoy the series at all. The person ruining my enjoyment would still be in and that would be pointless as it would just encourage me more to switch off.
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