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BB17 Discuss the series (won by Jason Burrill, runner-up Hughie) and all the housemates in this forum.
Housemates (tags):
Alex,
Andrew,
Andy,
Charlie,
Chelsea,
Emma,
Emma & Victoria,
Evelyn,
Georgina,
Hughie,
Jackson,
Jason,
Jayne,
Lateysha,
Laura,
Marco,
Natalie,
Ryan,
Sam,
Victoria,
HM Fan clubs (appreciation)
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19-06-2016, 12:01 PM | #26 | |||
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19-06-2016, 12:03 PM | #27 | |||
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I don't think the dad did a good job as well, especially as the one who meant to raise him properly leading him to some sort of self destruction. It's clearly ugly situation and he couldn't even have the sense to rise above it all. So I couldn't be bothered with the three of them tbh...
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19-06-2016, 12:05 PM | #28 | |||
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19-06-2016, 02:06 PM | #29 | ||
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What a simplistic and idealistic view you have .....I think you're wrong myself...very...loads of kids from famous parents end up like Marco and often end up dead....I don't know who your favourite housemates are or what their parents are like but I do know there is a high percentage chance they will become exactly as narsassistic as he is......I wonder if you simplistic view will be applied to them too.
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19-06-2016, 02:13 PM | #30 | ||
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The boy is in trouble and the boy is in pain......it's so obvious....how that can be a reason to hate him and wish him harm or, as one person said, wish him dead.....that philosophy is so far off my radar it may as well be in outer space... It's a credit to Andy and to Jackson that they both could see that when all the others failed to....tells me they are nice people |
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19-06-2016, 02:31 PM | #31 | |||
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19-06-2016, 03:09 PM | #32 | |||
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19-06-2016, 03:11 PM | #33 | ||
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19-06-2016, 04:13 PM | #34 | |||
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19-06-2016, 04:18 PM | #35 | ||
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19-06-2016, 04:18 PM | #36 | ||
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19-06-2016, 04:24 PM | #37 | ||
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19-06-2016, 04:32 PM | #38 | ||
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My view isn't simplistic or idealistic. Having a bad childhood isn't an excuse for being a ****up in adult life. at some point you have to let go of that crap or let it consume you but it's not an excuse for acting like a twat, that's on his shoulders and no one else's. He is no longer a child, he has his own mind and he can come to his own conclusions. You can't blame his upbringing for his actions. |
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19-06-2016, 04:35 PM | #39 | |||
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RIP Pyramid, Andyman ,Kerry and Lex xx https://www.facebook.com/JamesBulgerMT/?fref=photo "If slaughterhouses had glass walls, most people would be vegetarian" |
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19-06-2016, 04:43 PM | #40 | ||
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19-06-2016, 05:00 PM | #41 | |||
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That was an awfully condescending response to your point, which is very valid, so I totally understand your reaction. Hot2go makes some really intelligent points on many things, which I can often respect and agree with, but on occasions some are made in a rather insulting way, as in this case. Sadly, many Marco fans will not see that he has any responsibility for his own behaviour, despite the fact that he is an adult, and excuse him no matter what. Yet the more people excuse things, the more he will continue with behaviours which are likely to be harmful to himself or others, so it is actually detrimental to him, as the excuses are actually allowing him to convince himself that all is okay as it is. At what age or under what circumstances should Marco actually stop blaming his upbringing, learn some self-control and help himself? When he dies from cocaine abuse? When he kills someone whilst driving under the influence of drugs/alcohol? By excusing him no matter what, is almost supporting Marco in his own downfall or tragic outcome. |
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19-06-2016, 05:21 PM | #42 | ||
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You say abuse or neglect as a child are no excuse for being disfunctional as an adult I say it's not that simplistic and those factors def affect people when they become adults No point either of us going round in circles, we clearly don't agree |
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19-06-2016, 05:21 PM | #43 | |||
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E.g. A bully- MPJ was agressive and threatening to both Ryan and security guards. Selfish- MPJ has behaved exactly as he has wanted to in both the house and outside. Spending Ł250,000 on drugs, etc - driving under the influence of cocaine and during the day when there are likely to be crowds and young children out and about- doing what he wants with no thought about how it affects someone else Disgusting- numerous of his antics on the show, his treatment of his fiancée, etc. If, in 20 years time, MPJ has a son behaving in the way he does now, whose fault will that be? Because, according to MPJ fans, it seems it won't be his fault! Will they blame the child? Will they blame MPS's parents for the way they brought him up (if it's always the parents' fault)? Or will they still turn round and blame his father, who was perhaps too busy to give much time to him, and appears to have had a temper, but was, at least, trying to work hard to make a decent living in order to provide his children with a good education, a comfortable lifestyle, etc. |
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19-06-2016, 10:20 PM | #44 | |||
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If you don't have anything good to say about your son SHUT THE ****** UP
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19-06-2016, 10:23 PM | #45 | |||
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A mum saying her son has no hope is very cruel. You should always support your kids no matter what.
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19-06-2016, 10:26 PM | #46 | ||
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I love that his behaviour has been blamed on someone else.
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19-06-2016, 10:28 PM | #47 | ||
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19-06-2016, 11:23 PM | #48 | ||
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19-06-2016, 11:30 PM | #49 | |||
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The only hope is his dad, but let's hope he supports him he hasn't been there when he needed him
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20-06-2016, 12:35 AM | #50 | ||
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