[lewis111]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I never bothered with school uniform tbh, much to the disgust of my teachers.

Oddly enough, I still got As in everything, despite refusing to wear a uniform. It really affected my learning eh

I'm sure you are now incapable of following any of the necessary rules of life after that

[Jay28jay2]

Good for them, i'd do the same if I thought about it. To people who complain about it, they are teenage boys with hormones etc, they will be sweating and it is not pleasant.

its double standards how girls can wear skirts but boys can't wear shorts.

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Greg!

Good for them uniform rules are a load of shįt anyway, at my school teachers would mesusre girls skirts to see if they were long enough

My school didn't care about the length they just care about it being part of the uniform rules should be fair and the skirts/shorts situation is not a fair rule. It's not that hard to make shorts, I know it cost money but it's the parents who have to pay for it.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by lewis111

I'm sure you are now incapable of following any of the necessary rules of life after that

Oh of course

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Liam-

We didn't have shorts in my high school either, they weren't a part of the uniform, no kids went around 'protesting' by wearing skirts, no matter how hot it was, we stuck to the rules, they're there to learn and be prepared for the rest of their lives, they can't just throw a paddy when they're told they can't do something by their seniors, yes the school should probably provide a shorts option for when it's hot, but they clearly don't, so they should just wear what they have to.

They are there to learn, and grow as individuals that does not mean blindly following rules like a drone by seniors.

Whatever you had or didn't have, did or didn't do is not a benchmark for others, individuals...that's what employers want. Realists, thinkers, doers, creatives, solvers.

In Leeds today were many workers, ranging from postal to city types...all wearing shorts, no responsible employer would expect employees to work in conditions such as we have seen.

Wearing shorts on a hot day is not the first step on a slippery slope to non conformism or civil disobedience... don't worry.

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Good on them for making a point, standing up for rights and wanting change. There was no way to do this without breaking rules.

[Jack_]

Any fool can make a rule,
and any fool will mind it.

Henry David Thoreau

[Northern Monkey]

Frigginell we'd have got battered for wearing a skirt at my school.However the school should have uniform shorts in these days of health and safety madness to avoid **** like this.
Although this was just some kids trying to be smart.Trousers(or black jeans as i used to wear) never hindered my progress in school.I never thought I couldn't concentrate because my legs were too hot.

[Jamie89]

Originally Posted by Liam-

We didn't have shorts in my high school either, they weren't a part of the uniform, no kids went around 'protesting' by wearing skirts, no matter how hot it was, we stuck to the rules, they're there to learn and be prepared for the rest of their lives, they can't just throw a paddy when they're told they can't do something by their seniors, yes the school should probably provide a shorts option for when it's hot, but they clearly don't, so they should just wear what they have to.

Maybe if they had done, it wouldn't have been an issue for these boys?

Not every rule is 'right' just because it exists as rule. If that was the case there'd be no such thing as protesting, nothing would ever change, and women/gays/black people would have no rights. (I'm not equating a lack of shorts to those issues obviously... just highlighting my point! )

I think it's great what they did, they saw a problem with something and they took a bold step towards trying to fix it... good on them

And I think the argument of "if they were adults they wouldn't be allowed to just do whatever they want" doesn't hold considering there are plenty of adults who do protest and seek change for things that are important to them, and it's people like that who are responsible for most of the major shifts in society that we benefit from today.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Livia

Firstly, they look ridiculous. Secondly, rules are there to prepare kids for life and for work. They probably think this kind of nonsense will wash when they find a job... but it won't.

Rules were made to be broken Livia.

Especially ridiculously sexist ones such as this.

[Kizzy]

Youtube video

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Jack_

lol @ anyone thinking it's acceptable for people to have to sit uncomfortable in the heat we've had this week just because 'dem's the rules'. Newsflash: when you're uncomfortable, it lowers concentration levels and makes working harder

If you're in these kinds of situations and don't feel comfortable you're more than entitled to put your foot down and stand up for yourself, and I actively encourage it. People are humans, not mindless drones - no matter how hard society tries to make them. What utter BS

I have no more to add to this excellent post.

[Mokka]

Originally Posted by Jack_

lol @ anyone thinking it's acceptable for people to have to sit uncomfortable in the heat we've had this week just because 'dem's the rules'. Newsflash: when you're uncomfortable, it lowers concentration levels and makes working harder

If you're in these kinds of situations and don't feel comfortable you're more than entitled to put your foot down and stand up for yourself, and I actively encourage it. People are humans, not mindless drones - no matter how hard society tries to make them. What utter BS

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I have no more to add to this excellent post.

x2

[smudgie]

Originally Posted by LukeB

preach

people are bound to be annoyed that girls have skirts to wear and are allowed it too. One rule for females and another for males. Rules and rules but some rules are unfair and discriminating.

Well girls could not wear trousers to school for long enough so no change there then.

[Alf]

The other kids at the School, who followed the rules, have been hospitalised with sweaty bollox.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Livia

Firstly, they look ridiculous. Secondly, rules are there to prepare kids for life and for work. They probably think this kind of nonsense will wash when they find a job... but it won't.

This is just plain silly. They are there to learn and career's advice is an afterthought at Secondary School level. Most places of work, if they can't offer Air Con or something like it, will opt for different uniforms or a more smart casual look in summer because there's a health and safety risk involved.

Uniforms do jack **** for discipline, they don't affect anything except for learning if a student is too uncomfortable in them when it's hot to focus. Learning is the top priority when it comes to schools, if these foolish heads allow uniform regulations to get in the way of education then they have failed at their jobs.

School Uniforms are a most pointless waste of materials, money and time.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Jack_

Any fool can make a rule,
and any fool will mind it.

Henry David Thoreau

no wait Jack found a quote online

WE ARE SAVED

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

This is just plain silly. They are there to learn and career's advice is an afterthought at Secondary School level. Most places of work, if they can't offer Air Con or something like it, will opt for different uniforms or a more smart casual look in summer because there's a health and safety risk involved.

Uniforms do jack **** for discipline, they don't affect anything except for learning if a student is too uncomfortable in them when it's hot to focus. Learning is the top priority when it comes to schools, if these foolish heads allow uniform regulations to get in the way of education then they have failed at their jobs.

School Uniforms are a most pointless waste of materials, money and time.

Do you not even know why uniforms exist?

oh brother

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

no wait Jack found a quote online

WE ARE SAVED

no wait LeatherTrumpet found an article justifying police brutality online

WE ARE SAVED

[Vicky.]

Why do school uniforms exist, out of curiosity? Also why are pupils not allowed shaved heads, dyed hair (even natural colours) and such?

I am not trying to start an argument, I an genuinely curious and always have been :S

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Jack_

no wait LeatherTrumpet found an article justifying police brutality online

WE ARE SAVED

a years worth of extensive research Jack

I take it you and a few others on here are licking their wounds and perhaps will take on board the lesson you learned today?

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

a years worth of extensive research Jack

I take it you and a few others on here are licking their wounds and perhaps will take on board the lesson you learned today?

A years worth of extensive research, which like any other piece of research carried out by anybody for any length of time, is still shrouded in intracacies and variables which can skew the data. Official statistics are collated and compiled by human beings with agendas, feelings and prejudices and as such they must be analysed and not just accepted at face value. All of this has been pointed out to you already.

Careful LT, your disingenuity is at risk of turning into overt baiting here

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Do you not even know why uniforms exist?

oh brother

If you could enlighten me in your least patronising tone I would be grateful.

[AnnieK]

I was grateful for uniform at my school. I went to grammar school and as I was on a free scholarship amongst pretty damn wealthy families every day would have been a nightmare in the clothes stakes. Twice a year non uniform day was stressful enough. Uniform stops any petty **** about who has the best clothes etc.

[reece(:]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Why do school uniforms exist, out of curiosity? Also why are pupils not allowed shaved heads, dyed hair (even natural colours) and such?

I am not trying to start an argument, I an genuinely curious and always have been :S

They're as outdated as tattoo's being reason not to hire