[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Boris has charm

Subjective. He's a smarmy ****, I personally have very little time for people like that and so... no... I wouldn't say he has any "charm" for me.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Livia

It was a poor metaphor from a politician in the public eye. I can imagine his press officer fainting as the words issued from Smith's mouth. It weakens him as a viable candidate for leader and he should have known better.

yeah it was poor ill give you that...You can hardly imagine barry obama saying it

[the truth]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I agree, I also however don't think of him or see him as a viable leadership contender anyway.
In fact this whole leadership election is a farce and a waste of time in my view.

he has less than a snowballs chance in hell of overthrowing comrade corbyn
the only thing he has going for him is his ponty accent....then again hes hardly tom jones lol

[arista]

Great news today
if Corbyn Wins

Some BlairLabour Gits
are going to set up a Alternate Party.


The better Fecking hurry up and do it
as they will be de-selected one by one

Loads are worried that
a Corbyn MP will take their Parish/City over etc


Utter Bliss

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by arista

Great news today
if Corbyn Wins

Some BlairLabour Gits
are going to set up a Alternate Party.


The better Fecking hurry up and do it
as they will be de-selected one by one

Loads are worried that
a Corbyn MP will take their Parish/City over etc


Utter Bliss

I am coming round to the view if the MPs cannot and will not accept the result of this new leadership contest, that what you state above may well come to fruition.
I am not now so sure that would be bad thing either.

Very uncharted waters admittedly but one which could just bring great rewards in the end.

[arista]

"coming round to the view if the MPs cannot and will not accept the result of this new leadership contest"

They will , Even a Judge backed it.

Its all getting set up while Owen nobody
keeps fecking up on reporter questions

Corbyn is the Leader
the other BlairLabour gits
will be be kicked out one by one
And that Joey is DEMOCRACY.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by arista

"coming round to the view if the MPs cannot and will not accept the result of this new leadership contest"

They will , Even a Judge backed it.

Its all getting set up while Owen nobody
keeps fecking up on reporter questions

Corbyn is the Leader
the other BlairLabour gits
will be be kicked out one by one
And that Joey is DEMOCRACY.

Not sure totally on the democracy bit but will give you the rest for sure.

[arista]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Not sure totally on the democracy bit but will give you the rest for sure.

Thats because you are so young
I am sure your Parents might understand
this all better.



Labour - Corbyn and his young MP's

BlairLabour git MP's - to find a NEW NAME


All Logical

[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by arista

Thats because you are so young
I am sure your Parents might understand
this all better.



Labour - Corbyn and his young MP's

BlairLabour git MP's - to find a NEW NAME


All Logical

age has got nothing to do with it

Labour and Corbyn in particular have been preaching about what an inclusive party labour is. Its one of his key mandates. Yet here he is, with him and his supporters actively trying to purge the party of anyone with views different to his own. How people don't see the hypocrisy in this man, and how dangerous, and nasty he really is, is beyond me.

[arista]

But he is Real Labour


Fecking Owen Nobody
is BlairLabour
pathetic not worthy of Labour

[Kizzy]

What a guy

The economy isn’t working for millions of our people. Real wages have fallen, insecurity and low-paid jobs are spreading, investment is stagnating, corporate scandals are multiplying and Britain is heading for another downturn.

Economic failure is a central reason why people are no longer prepared to accept politics as usual. It’s one of the reasons I was elected Labour leader in a landslide 10 months ago – and why there can be no going back to a broken economic model or the politics of the past. Even Theresa May understands she has to pay lip service to change in the workplace and the boardroom.

In the past couple of weeks, a string of high street corporate names – Sports Direct, BHS, Lloyds, Byron burger chain – has driven home the reality faced by a huge number of workers today: a race to the bottom in insecurity, low pay, stress and exploitation.



https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...abour-priority

[arista]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

What a guy

The economy isn’t working for millions of our people. Real wages have fallen, insecurity and low-paid jobs are spreading, investment is stagnating, corporate scandals are multiplying and Britain is heading for another downturn.

Economic failure is a central reason why people are no longer prepared to accept politics as usual. It’s one of the reasons I was elected Labour leader in a landslide 10 months ago – and why there can be no going back to a broken economic model or the politics of the past. Even Theresa May understands she has to pay lip service to change in the workplace and the boardroom.

In the past couple of weeks, a string of high street corporate names – Sports Direct, BHS, Lloyds, Byron burger chain – has driven home the reality faced by a huge number of workers today: a race to the bottom in insecurity, low pay, stress and exploitation.



https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...abour-priority

Yes Kizzy
he is Real Labour.


these BlairLabours must get removed one by one

[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes Kizzy
he is Real Labour.


these BlairLabours must get removed one by one

you miss the point Arista, labour encompasses many views, that's what made it successful. If any are removed, it will kill labour as a viable government.

[arista]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

you miss the point Arista, labour encompasses many views, that's what made it successful. If any are removed, it will kill labour as a viable government.

Thats Your View

Not Mine or Kizzy


Many views are under Corbyn
Except the BlairLabour Feckers

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Livia

What find is, when someone in the Tory party does something stupid, most people, including supporters, comment negatively on it. But when it's someone in Labour who makes a stupid comment - usually anti-Semitic or sexist - the people on the left wriggle around deflecting it, and try to draw negative attention back to the Tories. As this post demonstrates.

What a load of rot Livia, as usual a misconstrued comment however unfortunately worded is blown up by the media while actual insults by other politicians are waived for some unknown reason or referred to even more bizarrely as 'charm'.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

All I have seen here is even those from Labour saying this was a silly comment,there is nothing wrong at all in pointing out at the same time that politicians of all parties say stupid things, not just the Labour party.

I find no one on here or off here who is on the left of politics, like myself, who would in any way support anyone making a genuine anti-semitic comment from whoever or whatever party it came from.
Your almost near mission of branding 'generally' those on the left, as anti semitic is tiresome to be quite honest and I am one who is dismayed at the getting away with generalising as to same every chance you get to.

The people on the left you say, not some, not a few, not many ,not even just the hierarchy but you state above, the people on the left , your words.
well I am on the left, I am a Labour party member and I am certainly not anti semitic in any shape or form, thank you very much.

I will fight back at that as it is a very serious accusation to make against a whole grouping of people on a political side.
I have also yet to see anything where, with respect, you have denounced Boris Johnson for any of his views and stupid, careless comments.

It is wrong for anyone in Labour to make stupid, unguarded and offensive comments. MPs, members or supporters.
However that is also the case for anyone in other parties too as well, which is what the post you try to ridicule, was actually addressing.

Well said Joey, it is really disingenuous to make such generalised remarks. I had already denounced the comment but that was conveniently overlooked for the chance to suggest I was deflecting the issue.

I tend not to 'wriggle' that would infer I was some sort of worm or insect...the type that 'swarm' perhaps? I heard someone refer to semites in this way once, it seemed to pass relatively unnoticed at the time.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Well said Joey, it is really disingenuous to make such generalised remarks. I had already denounced the comment but that was conveniently overlooked for the chance to suggest I was deflecting the issue.

I tend not to 'wriggle' that would infer I was some sort of worm or insect...the type that 'swarm' perhaps? I heard someone refer to semites in this way once, it seemed to pass relatively unnoticed at the time.

You know, Demolition Red used the term "swarm". I picked up on it, but you said not a word about it. Funny that. You don't like "wriggle" now"? I can't keep up.

The reason I didn't acknowledge that you'd denounced the comment is that I hardly ever read anything you write. And we've got miles and miles off topic now, while you and joey dissect everything I say. You can both assume that I'm never referring to either of you unless I say your names. You and Joey have to stop taking my references to people on the left so personally. It detracts terribly from the thread...

[Livia]

I won't be reading your reply, Kizzy. Back on ignore you go... I'd rather actually debate topics than reply to your strange, nit-picking posts.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Livia

You know, Demolition Red used the term "swarm". I picked up on it, but you said not a word about it. Funny that. You don't like "wriggle" now"? I can't keep up.

The reason I didn't acknowledge that you'd denounced the comment is that I hardly ever read anything you write. And we've got miles and miles off topic now, while you and joey dissect everything I say. You can both assume that I'm never referring to either of you unless I say your names. You and Joey have to stop taking my references to people on the left so personally. It detracts terribly from the thread...

It was David Cameron actually that I was referring to not DR, she was most likely referencing his 'swarm' comment.
I have noticed you cherry pick my posts and manipulate them for your own ends, regularly.
Also did you not say 'as this post demonstrates' in your accusatory post to me?...How could that be anything other than personal :/

My post was and still is relevant to the thread.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Livia

I won't be reading your reply, Kizzy. Back on ignore you go... I'd rather actually debate topics than reply to your strange, nit-picking posts.

Then stop quoting me with your ridiculous nit picky comments

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Livia

You know, Demolition Red used the term "swarm". I picked up on it, but you said not a word about it. Funny that. You don't like "wriggle" now"? I can't keep up.

The reason I didn't acknowledge that you'd denounced the comment is that I hardly ever read anything you write. And we've got miles and miles off topic now, while you and joey dissect everything I say. You can both assume that I'm never referring to either of you unless I say your names. You and Joey have to stop taking my references to people on the left so personally. It detracts terribly from the thread...

You detracted from the thread with respect when you raised again the anti semitism card against 'the people on the left'.
No one else did that, only you.

You should make clear at the time of your posting, that you do not mean all the people on the left and certainly not other members who are of the left and on here.

Otherwise then in response to a general term as, 'the people on the left'.
On the contrary, it is more likely the assumption should be, in the absence of any qualifying addition, that you do mean all those on the left, members here and otherwise.

I have done and will fight against antisemitism all my life.
While likely you may see people on the left as possibly beneath you and so fair game for wild accusations of being anti semitic.
I however know I have worth and just being on the left of politics does not make me any less credible or worthy than you on the right, and it certainly does 'not' make me and innocent others you accuse, on and off here, anti semitic either..

I still see no reason at all why anti semitism ever had to be made an issue here but only you initially brought it up, you created the detraction of the comments here onto it,no one else, with respect.