[arista]

Originally Posted by Livia

Novo offending 9 million people in one fell swoop.

He is a scally wag

[Livia]

The message from IS to Muslims all over the world is for them to act to kill infidels. People with mental health problems are the ideal candidates for that message... but that doesn't mean it isn't terrorism. It's the instant denial that makes me angry. Why not say nothing rather than imply it's anything else but terrorism when the likelihood is that is was carried out in the name of IS.

And Sadiq Khan... "I urge Londoners to remain calm & vigilant". Unnecessary advice.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by arista

He is a scally wag

He is... I've often thought Novo needs a good spanking.

[Will.]

Really sad

RIP to the woman who died.

[Cherie]

the killer is a Norwegian national of Somali origin, the women that died is an American national

[Suze]

One of my sister's lives right opposite Russell Square Station in the Brunswick flats, she doesn't use the tubes though, but family who visit her do. I tend to get off at Kings cross and walk to hers from there rather than mess about with the one stop from Kings Cross to Russell Square

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Suze

One of my sister's lives right opposite Russell Square Station in the Brunswick flats, she doesn't use the tubes though, but family who visit her do. I tend to get off at Kings cross and walk to hers from there rather than mess about with the one stop from Kings Cross to Russell Square

I don't think this happened on the tube Suze

[Suze]

Originally Posted by Cherie

I don't think this happened on the tube Suze

Thanks Cherie, I don't know why I assumed it had, I was just thinking of the crowds there so jumped to that conclusion.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Cherie

the killer is a Norwegian national of Somali origin, the women that died is an American national

Yes a Crazy Somali


Had enough of Norway
Picked a USA person to Murder??????

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Originally Posted by Tom*

****ing terrifying... My anxiety is going to be super high this weekend.
Thoughts with them all

I know people say being vigilant is useless but it could help for example I was in rush hour on the tube, literally couldn't move but a man as tall as the tube stood in front of me he had a huge black coat which was fine BUT it's wasn't that cold, he was acting nervous, had shifty eyes and he smelled of some sort of substance. I got the hell out the next stop.

2 Russian men left their bags on one end of the tube and went to sit at the other end. People wondered why and paid attention.

Try to think if they're going to bomb a tube are they more likely to bomb the middle to seperate the train which means you could have a chance if you sit at the very last carriage or the front. Just be attentive. If you're in a crowded area for a while scope out the exits etc.


Have fun

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes a Crazy Somali


Had enough of Norway
Picked a USA person to Murder??????

Yeah I wonder if they are playing this down i

[arista]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Yeah I wonder if they are playing this down i

Police say at his flat
nothing to do with Isis?

But I want to know
Why murder a USA Person?


he will go to Court Charged with Murder
and the attack the others near that Dead person

[MB.]

Police believe the attack in Russell Square on Wednesday was "spontaneous", with victims "selected at random".

Not sure which part of that you're not getting, Arista

[arista]

Originally Posted by MB.

Not sure which part of that you're not getting, Arista

Police "Believe"
Thats Fecking Guess Work

MB - You and I -- were not there,
at that time.

[Jamie89]

I was out near there last night So sad for the victim and her loved ones

[letmein]

Originally Posted by arista

Police "Believe"
Thats Fecking Guess Work

MB - You and I -- were not there,
at that time.

Perhaps, based on evidence collected.

[user104658]

There are thousands of horrific crimes committed across the globe every single day, and the vast majority have absolutely nothing to do with terrorism. When are we, therefore, going to stop assuming that every attack is terrorism-related as soon as the story breaks? It's illogical, paranoid, and surefire proof that terrorism is working. People see terrorist faces lurking in every corner even when there are none... This is aim of terrorism. Small scale attacks to encourage wide reaching fear.

We DON'T have to prefix every thread with "...might be terrorism" before the facts are known! The facts tend to come to light well within 24 hours. IF it then seems like it could be terror related, start posting the "Immigrants! Borders! Refugees! Oh my!" if you absolutely must but the fact that it comes pouring in long before the motives are even vaguely clear, is straight up ridiculous.

[Kizzy]

Well said TS the paranoia is tangible, there is no reasoning with people who make up their minds about an issue within the first minuet of hearing of it, even when faced with the truth the scenario they dreamed is still the preferred version.... :/

[Cherie]

I'm the last person anyone could accuse of paranoia, this is the second knife attack on the public in London in recent months that has been attributed to mental health, I have lived in London for years so I'm entitled to ask questions as to whether we are being told the truth, the streets were flooded with armed police only the day before the attack even though the UK has been in high alert for years and yes TS killings have been going on for years blah blah but random knife attacks on members of the public in crowded areas are not as common as you north of the border might assume. I agree that people should wait for the facts before assuming terror, that said I don't think we need to lap up every thing we are told either.

[Ammi]

The woman killed in the Russell Square knife rampage, in which a man stabbed six people at random, has been named as Darlene Horton.

The 64-year-old is the only person to have died in the central London attack, late on Wednesday evening, when a man began attacking people at random at around 10.30pm.


The Metropolitan Police said they had arrested a 19-year-old Norwegian national of Somali descent on suspicion of Horton’s murder. He is still in custody. Sky News has named him as Zakaria Bulhan.


Horton and her husband Richard Wagner were in London for a summer course and were due to return to the US on Thursday.


Florida State University, where Wagner is a psychology scholar, issued a statement saying: “There are no words to express our heartache over this terrible tragedy.”


Police had earlier said there was no evidence the attack was related to terrorism but was “triggered by mental health issues”.


A British man, who suffered a stab wound to his stomach, remains in hospital. Police said his condition was serious but stable.


They also confirmed the injuries and nationalities of the other victims, who have all been discharged from hospital. They are:



- An American man, who suffered a stab wound to his chest.


- An Australian woman, who suffered a stab wound to her back.


- An Australian woman, who suffered a stab wound to his chest.


- An Israeli woman, who suffered a stab wound to her bicep.


One witness revealed the last panic-stricken words of Horton.

The witness, who used towels in an attempt to halt the blood pouring from the victim’s wounds, said: “I was just trying to console and help her.


“The victim said something about, ‘He’s still here, he’s still here’. After that she was not lucid,” the Evening Standard reports.


Police originally said officers were pursuing terrorism as a “line of inquiry”, but subsequent statements have omitted any mention of terrorism.


An eyewitness said he believed the victims were speaking in Spanish prior to the stabbing.


The witness, called Michael, told MailOnline: “I heard a scream, and then we went to the park and I saw a girl lying on the floor with blood coming from her back. Another girl had blood on her arm.”


He added: “They all spoke Spanish so I guess they were a group. I only saw the victim and the girl with the arm stabbed from that group.


“I just saw blood just next to her. She was lying on the floor with a friend hugging her.”

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Ammi

The woman killed in the Russell Square knife rampage, in which a man stabbed six people at random, has been named as Darlene Horton.

The 64-year-old is the only person to have died in the central London attack, late on Wednesday evening, when a man began attacking people at random at around 10.30pm.


The Metropolitan Police said they had arrested a 19-year-old Norwegian national of Somali descent on suspicion of Horton’s murder. He is still in custody. Sky News has named him as Zakaria Bulhan.


Horton and her husband Richard Wagner were in London for a summer course and were due to return to the US on Thursday.


Florida State University, where Wagner is a psychology scholar, issued a statement saying: “There are no words to express our heartache over this terrible tragedy.”


Police had earlier said there was no evidence the attack was related to terrorism but was “triggered by mental health issues”.


A British man, who suffered a stab wound to his stomach, remains in hospital. Police said his condition was serious but stable.


They also confirmed the injuries and nationalities of the other victims, who have all been discharged from hospital. They are:



- An American man, who suffered a stab wound to his chest.


- An Australian woman, who suffered a stab wound to her back.


- An Australian woman, who suffered a stab wound to his chest.


- An Israeli woman, who suffered a stab wound to her bicep.


One witness revealed the last panic-stricken words of Horton.

The witness, who used towels in an attempt to halt the blood pouring from the victim’s wounds, said: “I was just trying to console and help her.


“The victim said something about, ‘He’s still here, he’s still here’. After that she was not lucid,” the Evening Standard reports.


Police originally said officers were pursuing terrorism as a “line of inquiry”, but subsequent statements have omitted any mention of terrorism.


An eyewitness said he believed the victims were speaking in Spanish prior to the stabbing.


The witness, called Michael, told MailOnline: “I heard a scream, and then we went to the park and I saw a girl lying on the floor with blood coming from her back. Another girl had blood on her arm.”


He added: “They all spoke Spanish so I guess they were a group. I only saw the victim and the girl with the arm stabbed from that group.


“I just saw blood just next to her. She was lying on the floor with a friend hugging her.”

Poor woman what a way to die

[arista]

Evil

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Poor woman what a way to die

...'with a friend hugging her'...just heart wrenching for her friend, Cherie..impossible enough to come to terms with such a death in that way but to be there with her as well...

[bots]

Originally Posted by Cherie

I'm the last person anyone could accuse of paranoia, this is the second knife attack on the public in London in recent months that has been attributed to mental health, I have lived in London for years so I'm entitled to ask questions as to whether we are being told the truth, the streets were flooded with armed police only the day before the attack even though the UK has been in high alert for years and yes TS killings have been going on for years blah blah but random knife attacks on members of the public in crowded areas are not as common as you north of the border might assume. I agree that people should wait for the facts before assuming terror, that said I don't think we need to lap up every thing we are told either.

What we are seeing i think is a form of copy catting. Those not particularly stable see events on the news and think ... hey, i could do that. All it takes is someone a bit mentally vulnerable. I too don't take what I hear as fact, its not like the police are proven to be 100% accurate in their summation of situations in the past. For me, it was still a terrorist attack, albeit not clear if it was related to ISIS or not, it was still a terrorist attack and should be viewed as such.

[Ammi]

..I think that we're seeing a rise of 'random attacks' and we've always been led to believe in these type of things not being so 'random' but that there is some kind of connection, so quite rare really ..(although obviously there are random attacks on the general public but really not that many compared to what it feels atm...)...so there is bound to be speculations as well in the current terrorism climate and so many recent events...