[chuff me dizzy]

D was the most scary of the 2,he got out of bed and faced up to Bear ( who didn't even blink,he kept his cool so well ) admitted Bear shouldn't have broken the mirror,but IMO D was the most aggressive

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

D was the most scary of the 2,he got out of bed and faced up to Bear ( who didn't even blink,he kept his cool so well ) admitted Bear shouldn't have broken the mirror,but IMO D was the most aggressive

He was but for him this incident would not likely have happened
Spot on Chuff.

Yet Heavy D gets way with it all despite his possible sort of unnatural obsession as to a younger female.

[waterhog]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

How is he getting a warning and being forced to sleep in some separate room while Heavy D just wanders back to bed?

And what right do BB have to lock him in the diary room? It must go against fire regulations if nothing else. If they did that to me I would set the chair on fire.

And the "security" make me laugh. Would love to see how they behaved if Mike Tyson went on BB and kicked off in the diary room.

Bear is going to win this after the way he has been treated.

are you watching

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Absorption

People are being a bit hard on Bear here.

Actually, it's the producers' fault for their bad editing.

What they cut out was Bear rescuing some starving orphans who'd wandered into the BB garden. He threw the cup to try and make a hole in the wall to hasten their exit to safety, as he knew how long it would take for BB to open the door.

Naturally, CGI was used to remove any trace of the poor kids from the footage screened in last night's show.

Don't believe me? Well, think on this...why have they removed all references to him defeating ISIS? Yep, exactly...total bias.

[Jan S]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..they did though Jack..they had absolutely every right to hold someone in there who they were deeming to be a possible threat to the welfare of the other housemates...not for an indefinite period of time, no but until they felt he should leave the diary room and for his own safety as well...it's not someone acting with 'reason' to throw things around the way he did and break property..(as well as breaking the rules etc..)..he was a child, it was playground behaviour, it was tantrum behaviour and socially and within a group of people, one of whom he could have hurt, it was unacceptable behaviour...their responsibility is for the welfare of the housemates..that might be a bit dubious and inconsistent I know in terms of what Aubrey did and them allowing Bear to eat the sandwich and have his drink etc but it would be wrong to carry on in that vein and heck it all, let's put them all in potential danger....in a school he would very much be isolated for the behaviour that he displayed and this house atm is very much a school with childish/playground behaviour in almost every way...he had calmed and he had apologised..?...well that's not really for him to decide when he's calm enough or when he's apologised enough..he lost that privilege of deciding in the way he behaved, it's for BB to decide when they're ok with him to leave the DR....I can't recall who it was who threw something across the room once before and it could have hit another housemate..(it was a bottle or a can, I think..)...and we were all saying wow, that could have hit a housemate..behaviour like that is completely unacceptable, throwing things around in anger which could result in someone being hurt but at the very least, he destroyed property and very much should have been isolated and not on his terms to have decided when he was calm enough to be un-isolated...


..and if he had hurt someone, it would be like the Aubrey thing and why did BB allow this and why didn't they intervene and why did they allow him to leave the DR just because he was anxious to leave...they've been wrong I think personally with some of their decisions but carrying on being wrong would just be careless neglect...(of those darn children..)...

all of this.

[hot2go]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

D was the most scary of the 2,he got out of bed and faced up to Bear ( who didn't even blink,he kept his cool so well ) admitted Bear shouldn't have broken the mirror,but IMO D was the most aggressive

Bear was just pressing Heavys buttons....Heavy D chose to react with violence just like Aubrey did the day before.
Bear lost his temper when he was alone and walking away from the drama and and he lost his temper when he was alone and locked up against his will in the diary room. That's the big difference....Bear didn't commit an act of violence to another housemate like Aubrey and Heavy did.

[reece(:]

Originally Posted by Livia

It's his father who did something wrong. He should have worn a condom.

Clocked

[Livia]

If anyone ever wonders why trial by jury is flawed, they should read this thread.

When Bear walked into the bedroom and started shouting the odds, Heavy D went off on him, telling him him to shut up because people were sleeping. Had Bear walked away it would have been over. But he didn't. He walked up to Heavy D's bed, sat on his bedside cabinet and put his foot on Heavy's bed, knowing that he was already angry. It was a calculated action meant to antagonise, and it did.

Bear smashed a mirror in the garden and he acted like a twat in the diary room - until someone bigger turned up, then he couldn't have been more co-operative.

I'm really struggling to see how Bear has any support whatsoever. I really don't like Heavy D either, but Bear was completely in the wrong last night and BB would have been totally within their rights to have expelled him.

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Livia

If anyone ever wonders why trial by jury is flawed, they should read this thread.

When Bear walked into the bedroom and started shouting the odds, Heavy D went off on him, telling him him to shut up because people were sleeping. Had Bear walked away it would have been over. But he didn't. He walked up to Heavy D's bed, sat on his bedside cabinet and put his foot on Heavy's bed, knowing that he was already angry. It was a calculated action meant to antagonise, and it did.

Bear smashed a mirror in the garden and he acted like a twat in the diary room - until someone bigger turned up, then he couldn't have been more co-operative.

I'm really struggling to see how Bear has any support whatsoever. I really don't like Heavy D either, but Bear was completely in the wrong last night and BB would have been totally within their rights to have expelled him.

Spot on Livia...

They are both trash but Bear instigated the incident last night. It was deliberate and he deserved all he got.

[hot2go]

I don't think BB should not have let Bear back into the house with the others at that moment but I don't think BB should have left him on his own in a state of distress and what looked like a panic attack caused by being locked up....he clearly said to the guard that he just wanted to have someone else there.....

Was it only me who found that uncomfortable to watch ...while others thought it was funny ?

[Livia]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Spot on Livis.

They are both trash but Bear instigated the incident last night. It was deliberate and he deserved all he got.

Oh God... that bit when the security guard appeared... I watched it again on +1 and I'm considering watching it tonight on +24. It was the most amusing thing I've ever seen happen to anyone on BB. Definitely my moment of the series.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by hot2go

I don't think BB should have let Bear back into the house with the others at that moment but I don't think BB should have left him on his own in a state of distress and what looked like a panic attack caused by being locked up....he clearly said to the guard that he just wanted to have someone else there.....

Was it only me who found that uncomfortable to watch ...while others thought it was funny ?

Yeah, I think it's just you. The rest of us aren't about to make excuses for that kind of behaviour.

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Livia

Oh God... that bit when the security guard appeared... I watched it again on +1 and I'm considering watching it tonight on +24. It was the most amusing thing I've ever seen happen to anyone on BB. Definitely my moment of the series.

I've watched it again this morning...I think it's one of the funniest scenes ever...its only funny because he thinks he is so hard..

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by hot2go

Yes, it was obvious watching him, he was in sort of panic...BB should have opened the door immediately just like they should have stopped Aubrey feeding him her spit on a sandwich ....
People not liking him does not make these things right at all...Is Saira or Ricky or anyone else had displayed the distress he was in BB would have immediately gone to their aid and people on here would have kicked off big time

Bear's getting the Perez Hilton treatment by some of the BB fans, they can be treated however the other Housemates want as Bear/Perez are "unlikable" like we haven't had unlikable Housemates on BB before, but apparently these two are/were so vile that they deserve to be treated like **** for no reason in some cases.

And in the Ch4 series I remember Nikki getting away with her jealous rampages at Grace and George just because they wasn't popular with the public.

And Rachel Rice haters found it funny when Darnell got up in her face during one of the divide weeks of BB9.

Basically my point is that some BB fans are hypocrites.

[hot2go]

Originally Posted by Livia

Yeah, I think it's just you. The rest of us aren't about to make excuses for that kind of behaviour.

I'm not making excuses for his behaviour at all...he was also wrong and it was right they took him to the diary room...But when he started to get distressed and was having a panic attack they should have gone to his aid...it was not funny at all.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

I've watched it again this morning...I think it's one of the funniest scenes ever...its only funny because he thinks he is so hard..

Ahhh it's not just me then! Isn't it always the same with people like that? Front them up and they crumble.

[hot2go]

I'm finding it hard to defend any of them...I'm just observing what I see...and I think last nights drama was started the night before by Heavys aggressive behaviour towards Bear and by Renee betraying Bear alongside Aubrey. I'm glad he didn't just take that and look like a push over.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by hot2go

I'm not making excuses for his behaviour at all...he was also wrong and it was right they took him to the diary room...But when he started to get distressed and was having a panic attack they should have gone to his aid...it was not funny at all.

Go and Google the symptoms of a panic attack and then try to fit those symptoms into what happened last night. Being a twat and screaming that you're going to "smash the ****ing gaff up" isn't amongst the symptoms. No one has suggested he was having a panic attack other than a couple of unqualified people on here who seem able to make a diagnosis of someone's mental health by watching them on the telly for five minutes.

Maybe you should watch it again?

[Northern Monkey]

Deffo not a panic attack more of an idiot attack.

[y.winter]

They could choke each other as far as I'm concerned.
Should we even take a side in this? The two fight, let the third win.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by hot2go

Was it only me who found that uncomfortable to watch ...while others thought it was funny ?

Yet you encourage and relish in the thought of Bear "going for Saira next" you have an odd sense of uncomforting.

[dyfed]

Originally Posted by Livia

It's his father who did something wrong. He should have worn a condom.

Omg this is priceless...

[Patricia4]

Originally Posted by Livia

If anyone ever wonders why trial by jury is flawed, they should read this thread.

When Bear walked into the bedroom and started shouting the odds, Heavy D went off on him, telling him him to shut up because people were sleeping. Had Bear walked away it would have been over. But he didn't. He walked up to Heavy D's bed, sat on his bedside cabinet and put his foot on Heavy's bed, knowing that he was already angry. It was a calculated action meant to antagonise, and it did.

Bear smashed a mirror in the garden and he acted like a twat in the diary room - until someone bigger turned up, then he couldn't have been more co-operative.

I'm really struggling to see how Bear has any support in to whatsoever. I really don't like Heavy D either, but Bear was completely in the wrong last night and BB would have been totally within their rights to have expelled him.

I agree with this Livia you are spot on and to be honest I would of liked him to be removed I was a fan of his but not anymore he's turned in to a real twat.

[Withano]

Bear wasnt having a panic attack, Bear isn't claustrophobic. The excuses people make up for him are absurd.

Bear is just a petulant child who got a bit upset that people werent worshipping his every move. He got angry and was detained because he was a danger to himself, his housemates and the production team.

He purposely pissed off Heavy and got the reaction he wanted, his passive aggressive 'choor what was that about' as soon as Heavy left the room was as transparent as it gets, unbeknownst to him, people saw theough his transparent act, Renee called him out on it and he lashed out by throwing things with force as he wasnt the hero/victim/lad he tried so hard to be.

How anybody watched anything different is beyond me. Then again theres a direct correlation with people who saw something different and those who are fans of Bear so maybe that explains it completely.

[ThriceShy]

All these vile threats and assaults towards bear have made me want him to win.

Bullied housemates traditionally do very well.

Look how composed and reasonable he was after having his food spat in.