[starry]

Originally Posted by y.winter

Yes, people know to take offence only when it's relevant to them.

Alot of people say offensive things and have bigoted opinions, and you see that on forums at times of course. But some people are apparently considered fair game, which is strange.

[Clootie Dumpling]

Originally Posted by lovebigbrotheruk

Excuse me, I'm talking about people like Antony Grey, Bob Mellors, and Ray Gosling, all of who have now passed away and whose views totally contradict those the OP made. Check yourself and educate yourself.

As for those pioneers who are alive, I have never heard any of them express similar views to those Biggins made. Just sayin'.

Please, don't make assumptions about the extent of my knowledge in this, or any other area. If you don't want your opinions to be misconstrued, perhaps you should consider expressing them more clearly.

[halfacrown]

Originally Posted by lovebigbrotheruk

It is Biggins who is a big fat hypocrite for expecting respect for himself as a gay man, yet branding all bisexuals with the same brush with his unsubstantiated ignorance.

Now you're not making sense, and you're mixing metaphors... I don't see that he's demanded anything. I've just said that I don't think he was talking about bisexuals at all, he was talking about gay people pretending to be bi in order to gain acceptance. It's a genuine phenomenon. As I said: I did it myself.

[starry]

Originally Posted by lovebigbrotheruk

Free speech does not mean hate speech.

There's hate speech on forums and tabloids and fed by TV programs all the time. CH5 have programs to encourage hatred of some groups. I just don't like hyprocrisy which is what you tend to get.

[lovebigbrotheruk]

Originally Posted by halfacrown

Now you're not making sense, and you're mixing metaphors... I don't see that he's demanded anything. I've just said that I don't think he was talking about bisexuals at all, he was talking about gay people pretending to be bi in order to gain acceptance. It's a genuine phenomenon. As I said: I did it myself.

Maybe he should have made that more clear, but since you're not him nor his spokesperson, you can't claim he meant anything other than what he said. Like I said, he branded all bisexuals with the same brush. Unnacceptable.

[erinp5]

read this on DS no clue if it's true or a wind up

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=2171093

[halfacrown]

Originally Posted by Jan S

i don't respect biggins, but i certainly respect your post and shared attitude with hot2go on this topic

Thanks. So much has changed for the better for LGBT people, yet I find the fear of words and the rush to condemn people out of hand, extraordinary. I was chatting to a fairly young person recently about the gay scene of the early 80s and described a friend of mine as a 'butch dyke' and the person I was speaking to got very worked up about the description, until I explained that my friend had it tattooed on her arm!

[y.winter]

Originally Posted by erinp5

read this on DS no clue if it's true or a wind up

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=2171093

If it's true or even if someone actually sat and made it up - it's just so wrong in so many levels

[Maru]

Originally Posted by erinp5

read this on DS no clue if it's true or a wind up

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=2171093

Holy ****, if that is true, then... wow

[Mystic Mock]

If that transcript is true from DS then no wonder his been thrown out.

At first I heard that he'd just made a Family Guy type of joke about the Nazis, but after reading the whole thing I think that it was the right decision for him to leave if it's true.

[Ant.]

The 2nd year running that a housemate has been ejected due to nazis

Hitler's impact?

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Lilbro

The 2nd year running that a housemate has been ejected due to nazis

Hitler's impact?

Hitler's contributed more to this series than Ricky and Katie.

[halfacrown]

Originally Posted by lovebigbrotheruk

Maybe he should have made that more clear, but since you're not him nor his spokesperson, you can't claim he meant anything other than what he said. Like I said, he branded all bisexuals with the same brush. Unnacceptable.

Okay, let's clear this up: you don't brand people with a brush, you brand with an iron. It's slightly ridiculous to demand clarity from people when you're talking about branding with brushes!

Another thing, my understanding of his comments comes directly from what he said, and I quote: "what it is is people not wanting to admit they are gay."

What is it that has actually upset you about his comments?

I disagree with condemning gay people for pretending to be bi (because coming out can be bloody difficult), but I don't disagree with his point that some people don't want to admit they're gay.

[Rob!]

And you all compare me to him

[Ant.]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Hitler's contributed more to this series than Ricky and Katie.

Hnnng I stan Katie but sadly it's true

[Rob!]

Originally Posted by Lilbro

The 2nd year running that a housemate has been ejected due to nazis

Hitler's impact?

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Hitler's contributed more to this series than Ricky and Katie.

[Ant.]

Originally Posted by Rob!

Good ol' michael barrymore

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Rob!

And you all compare me to him

Well in your year you did an impression of him.

[Amy Jade]

That's shocking if that's correct

[Greg!]

Omg that transcript he's literally a racist **** if that's true

[bitontheslide]

if that transcript is true, its like the views of people 100-200 years ago

[Rob!]

That's a pretty in depth made up transcript

[LukeB]

Biggins

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

That's shocking if that's correct

That Rob is Michael Barrymore?

[zakman440]

I very much doubt that DS transcript is real. I mean, how would a DS member get hold of such a transcript? It's best to wait until the show's aired tomorrow or until Channel 5 comment further.